January 31, 2007

Just As Quickly As The Frogs Reel Me In, They Throw Me Back Again


OK, I read this story quickly at Eye On The World; Canadian town to immigrants: You can't stone women

My first reaction is that I thought that would be in the books of all of Canada already. It went on:
"Therefore we consider it completely outside these norms to ... kill women by stoning them in public, burning them alive, burning them with acid, circumcising them etc." No face coverings for women unless it is Halloween. You don't like it, don't come here.

Sounds good. I'm in full agreement. I wonder what the Dearborn population would be like if this was spelled out like Herouxville, a town of 1300 people in Quebec, is spelling it out. Basically, take your Sharia Law and shove it up Mohammed's pooper. Don't even think about it.

One of Eye On The World's commenters stated:

So, in this case, the villagers of Herouxville are simply being islamoprudential.

I like it.

Even this sounds good:

"We invite people from all nationalities, all languages, all sexual orientations, whatever, to come live with us, but we want them to know ahead of time how we live."

That is cool. Except they really mean, "we don't just mean we don't want Muslims" and I'm ashamed to admit that my islamoprudence didn't allow me to see it. I then read this upon further research:

'The town also criticized Muslim halal and Jewish kosher dietary requirements.

"If our children eat meat, for example, they don't need to know where it came from or who killed it. Our people eat to nourish the body, not the soul," the councilors wrote.'

They went way too far for me. And I'm sure they are being hypocritical too. Do the children also not need to know if food contains peanut oil, for example?

Then I found out that the place is 96% Catholic. I'll bet they didn't get the Pope's memo that state the Jews didn't kill Jesus because they didn't bother translating it into their foreign native Froggy tongue.

They didn't stop at Jews either:

'The newspaper said Sikhs were angered by the town's refusal to recognize the ceremonial daggers called kirpans men wear on their legs, while Jehovah's Witnesses protested the town saying doctors didn't require permission to perform blood transfusions.'

You know what, I agree with the above too. But the stupid Froggies had to take issue with Kosher food.

I have no problem with food stores not carrying Kosher foods if it isn't economically viable, but to introduce this into legislation is the height of assmonkeyness.

I know many readers will think I'm getting over defensive of "my people," I just want to say that Jews don't blow things up in the West and they don't look for new members. They don't reject medical procedures that save lives, and they don't carry weapons for religious purposes. They don't cover their faces either, sometimes just the top of their heads....this doesn't allow for potential dangerous situations or identification problems which could pose security problems one day.

But to some religious Jews, staying Kosher is important to them. And it is not a threat to anyone else.

These Froggies showed they are not trying to be prudent, just intolerant. Maybe someone should translate this video into Froggie for them:


I realize Quebec is starting to find out what Islam is all about, but it might be too late. I'm still routing for separation. Ever since I was jealous that my grade 8 French teacher had more hair on her chin than I did, I've had it in for the Froggies.

January 30, 2007

Should I Ban Rickey?



My regular readers are fully aware that I have a cyber stalker on this blog who constantly attacks me and many of those who leave comments here. I've know "Rickey for a few years now (not personally). He was a regular pest on the now defunct Israel conflict message board on Yahoo, affectionately known as "the hate board."

His motus operandi has not changed. He attacks Jews, Judaism, military posters, blacks, Arabs (not Arab posters though), and women. Rarely will he have anything relevant to say, and rarely will he ever stay on topic. Instead he just mainly makes personal insults. He also has an extensive file of copy and paste insults that he would flood the board with, all this while constantly changing IDs that were close matches to the regular posters on the board (except he bastardized the names in a very derogatory manner). He is known to regular posters as Oink or Oinky.

Since the Yahoo board was put to sleep, he has become totally obsessed (not in a gay way, I think) with me and my blog. In fact, the only reason I moderate comments right now is because when left unmoderated, he would copy and paste lengthy irrelevant long posts from his files.
He has set up a mirror blog dedicated to me called The Atheist Jew Slug, because in his own words he needs to expose me.

Who is Rickey/Oinky? I've often speculated on his ethnicity and even his sex. Because he attacked women so furiously, I thought he was a woman for the longest time. Because he seemed to be passionate about Lebanon (prior to the last war), I thought maybe he was a Druze, because he seemed to hate Jews and make fun of Arabs.
I noticed though, he would never malign Muslims in general.

At times he would get civil with some board members. He said he owned an Auto Repair shop in Burns, Oregon.

When everyone knew that Yahoo was closing the message board, I caught him at a weak moment and got him to post his picture (how can anyone be 100% it is him?). Since he used to attack everyone who posted their pics by trying to belittle their looks, I told him it would only be fair to post his.

At the time I thought he was probably a Pakistani Muslim. But he wrote the following message that changed my mind:

Re: Hey Oink
by: bacon_the_slug (46/Ontario, PussyCanada) 12/18/06 09:51 pm
Msg: 3108634 of 3110225

I am whiter and fairer skinned than you who claims to be the son of some kinds of jews. I think your dad was from ethiopia. My relatives were from the Ukraine.


Posted as a reply to: Msg 3108627 by bacon_eating_atheist_jew


Note: his ID. You can't trust an ID thief 100%, I realize.

Some more info on him that makes me believe he is closer to 40 than the 12 my commenters have speculated on:

Re: If God didn't want us to eat meat
by: baldarab_withdog (46/M/Ontario, Cuntada)


12/20/06 12:29 pm
Msg: 3111313 of 3111693
1 recommendation


Loss prevention/security/surveillance all part of protecting casino assets. The majority of problems come from employees. Every square inch of the casino is covered by some kind of camera. That's the way it was at the Reno Hilton where I worked, and the rest are similar.


His most frequent attack on me had to do with the fact that I married outside "my species." He calls assimilation a sin. This makes me think he is a Muslim. He could be crazy Jew, but I doubt it. He is definately a Holocaust fan. But he is crazy.

A good description of a cyber stalker from Desicritics.org: 'individuals of low self-esteem and a corrupt mind trying their best to bring out the worst in others especially those who disagree with them on matters concerning wealth, ideas, perception and at times the heart. For them rejection means nothing but "failure" and a failure means "let down"..........Humiliation in public, cheap tactics with false quotes, sometimes bodily harm are just some of the genius acts that these degenerated souls can resort to.'

It is apparent he is a nutjob freak. I'm guessing he is very harmless. But maybe not to himself. That is why if I ban him, I'm not worried about what he would do to me, but what he would do to himself. He obviously needs this outlet. What to do?

I realize I'm giving him the attention he craves with this post, but I hold the upper hand, because I don't have to publish any more of his comments and he knows it. And I think my readers are getting sick of his shtick.

January 28, 2007

The Lord's Prayer Has No Business At Council Meetings


Durham Council Votes To Continue Saying Lord's Prayer

This is just more theocratic nonsense by Christians trying to rise above their insecurities. Yeah, the poor picked on Christians. Oooh, the Atheists are out to get them.

"The Lord's Prayer is a Christian prayer, and there's not just Christians within the council or in the meetings," said Mark Robinson of the Humanist Society of Canada.

"Everybody in there should be looked at as one, and what that prayer does is single out Christians."

News to Christians: This isn't Saudi Arabia. Canada is not a theocracy just because it was founded by mostly Christians. Heck, the early founders of Canada didn't even have any information on evolution or the Big Bang. They had no choice but believe in the invisible man in the sky. If Canada was founded in 1200, the founding fathers would have believed the sun revolves around the earth.

Canada is a secular country. There are Catholics, Baptist, Jews, Atheists, Agnostics, Muslims, Buddhists, etc. The Lord's Prayer is a Christian prayer. If said in public it EXCLUDES everyone who isn't Christian. Where do Christians get off?

Lets not forget that the Lord's Prayer, being recited in unison, in a government building, violates the Charter of Rights. Yeah, it is against the law.

Lets take me as an example. I had to listen to the Lord's Prayer in public school in the mid 60's. I'm not sure when they removed it, but I was glad they did. I was in grade one and two and the words in the prayer conjured up visions of death to me.
Why was I, a 7 year old boy, born and raised in Toronto as a secular Jew, exposed to Christian Fundamentalism in a public school?

It was just as wrong then, as it is now.

Even the Christians can't come to agreement on which prayer is the "right" one. And they can't even agree if the Lord's Prayer has to do with life on earth, or planning for Jesus' return and shortly thereafter, or both.

I used to think "hallowed be thy name," was really "how will it be thy name." I wonder if Christians who spew it out like a herd of sheep know what the words mean.

If the prayer is to try to ensure that God is watching over you and attempting to keep you away from doing shitty things on a daily basis. The Prayer should be made at home. What if you are tempted on your way to the meeting? What if you are married and you see a gorgeous half naked hitch hiker on your way to a council meeting? God won't help you, because you didn't pray to him yet.

I'm at the stage in my life where I just find this stuff annoying and slightly offensive. And in this case, there is no need for me to turn the other cheek.

Since Christians think it is their right to annoy and offend people like me, because they think they have more rights in this country than I do. And Durham thinks they can circumvent the laws by reciting the Prayer prior to each meeting. Here is how to put an end to it:

If anyone is at a meeting and is even slightly offended by the recital of the Lord's Prayer they should recite something out and try to drown out the nonsense being spewed.

As soon as the Prayer begins, how about yelling this out:

"Praise Allah, Allah Akbar" or "You Christians are funny, you pray to a dead Jew" or
"There is no evidence a historical Jesus ever existed, and God is a man made concept. There is no God," or, how about just putting your hands under you armpits while the prayer is going and make that weird farting sound by moving your biceps up and down until most of the board members spew out Amen. Or how about just sacrificing a chicken for luck prior to the meeting.

The above isn't more absurd than bringing the Lords Prayer to a public place. And all the above is legal (OK maybe not the chicken sacrifice), unlike the reciting of the Lords Prayer.

Christians may find this offensive and annoying too. But Christians aren't hypocrites.....or are they?

I have no problem if the council members want to meet early at someone's home or how about a church (too obvious), and recite whatever the hell they want to recite. I don't care if they want to carpool and speak in tongues on their way to work. But keep this crap out of the government halls.

More discussion at CBC.ca

January 26, 2007

How Much Money Is A Few Months Of Torture Worth?


Maher Arar, settled for $10 million because he was on the terrorist watch list in the US and deported to his NATIVE Syria (where he was ALLEGEDLY tortured), instead of being allowed to return to Montreal a few year ago.

Ok that is an oversimplification. If you want the details click here.

Besides the obvious questions as to WHY he was on the terror list?, and WHY Syria would torture a TERRORIST?, or even, WHY would Syria torture a non terrorist? And why hasn't the USA removed Arar from their terror list yet? After reading a post by Deepsouth, one comment stands out: Would the Canadian government please send me
to Syria so that I can be abused for a healthy
10 Million bucks.


He originally sued for $400 MILLION, so maybe the Canadian government figured the $12.8 million it is paying out to be a bargoon. Personally, the amount being paid out is beyond obscene.

This leads me to my hypothetical question:

If you were "falsely" accused of a crime and deported to another country (it doesn't even have to be the country you were born in), and you were tortured (not even allegedly tortured), how much money would you accept from your government for a few months of jail and torture? Remember: You will not be raped or murdered and you will return to the country you now call home in around one year.

I'm not a fan of Sadism/Masochism. I'm not that kinky. Doesn't do anything for me sexually or even emotionally. But I would be willing to take a vacation for $200,000. How about you?


The Canadian taxpayer is paying for this fiasco. To be honest, this makes me not want to pay taxes.

January 25, 2007

Might As Well Get Some Use From My New Digital Camera

My wife just wouldn't flush this thing I saw on the floor by our bar last night. And I have no say in the matter.
It is too fricken cold to put her/him/it outside, so right now Wolfie (I'm pretty sure it is a Wolf spider) is our new temporary pet.

Left, is a picture of my wife's finger in comparison with Wolfie. As you can see, Wolfie is around 3 inches 1 inch long. My wife thinks it is 3 inches. I won't tell her differently. That is a piece of hamburger meat next to Wolfie in case anyone was wondering.







If I'm right and this is a Wolf spider, surprisingly they can live 3+ years.

This makes sense, since I don't remember Charlotte making it past October, or was it November?

They love crickets, flies, moths, etc. But my house is pretty bug free, so it looks like hamburger meat for him/her/it right now.

Oh yeah, today is my birthday. I'm still one day older than Wayne Gretzky:


Oh, and Daisy is loving the snow:

January 23, 2007

Canada May Be On The Verge Of The Cancer Cure

I know, we've heard this before. But one thing I have to admit, the fight against cancer has come a long way, even since the early 70's, when a cancer diagnosis might as well been a death sentence. Of course, it depends which cancers we are talking about today, but it seems that a lot of people get "cured." Maybe it has to do with the fact that more things are called cancer than they were way back when. I don't remember people talking about skin cancers in the 60's and early 70's, but I wasn't paying much attention either.

I'm one of those optimistic skeptics, but I really like what I've read about the potential cure written about at NewScientist.com. Bear in mind, I am not a biologist, or any type of scientist or doctor for that matter, but thanks to my laymans understanding about evolution, this stuff really looks exciting:

Evangelos Michelakis of the University of Alberta in Edmonton, Canada, and his colleagues tested DCA on human cells cultured outside the body and found that it killed lung, breast and brain cancer cells, but not healthy cells. Tumours in rats deliberately infected with human cancer also shrank drastically when they were fed DCA-laced water for several weeks.

DCA attacks a unique feature of cancer cells: the fact that they make their energy throughout the main body of the cell, rather than in distinct organelles called mitochondria. This process, called glycolysis, is inefficient and uses up vast amounts of sugar.

Until now it had been assumed that cancer cells used glycolysis because their mitochondria were irreparably damaged. However, Michelakis’s experiments prove this is not the case, because DCA reawakened the mitochondria in cancer cells. The cells then withered and died.



It appears that this team is looking at cancer in a different way:

Paul Clarke, a cancer cell biologist at the University of Dundee in the UK, says the findings challenge the current assumption that mutations, not metabolism, spark off cancers. “The question is: which comes first?” he says.

Now the big problem is FUNDING the needed human research. Because DCA is not patented, drug firms can't make a ton of money off it. So the pubicly owned drug companies won't spend dough on research:

'Michelakis is concerned that it may be difficult to find funding from private investors to test DCA in clinical trials. He is grateful for the support he has already received from publicly funded agencies, such as the Canadian Institutes for Health Research (CIHR), and he is hopeful such support will continue and allow him to conduct clinical trials of DCA on cancer patients.'

"Nobody is going to make a billion dollars from this drug," Dr. Michelakis said. "But maybe it will help a lot of people with cancer."

I don't think Canada research will get stymied by the FDA. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.

A website has been set up to take donations. It looks legit...and again I'm a skeptic. Check out DCA Research Information, and do your own diligence if you wish to donate.

Now, this is the kind of thing Bill Gates or Warren Buffett should throw a whack of money at. It is one thing to spend money on preventing cancer and other diseases in the third world (spending money on preventing babies in the third world and oil rich countries should be the priority though), it is another thing to cure cancer. Being the main contributor on a venture that cures cancer will ensure immortality, and the good kind of immortality, not the Hitler kind. Hey, maybe I can be remembered as the blogger who twisted Bill Gate's arm on this one.

H/T Shadow Of God at the Raving Atheist's Forum

Added tidbit: She Blinded Me With Science has a very interesting blog post about evolution and cancer.

January 21, 2007

These People Have To Be Young Earth Creationists

This is what happens when you go to church on Sundays and use a V-Chip to block out PBS and the National Geographic channels:

HT Choobus, from The Raving Atheist's Forum.

There is no way the people interviewed in the above clip are Atheist, or even Agnostic. Let me take that back. They are Agnostic when it comes to common facts.
It is sad that these people can vote.
Hopefully that clip made you laugh, and embarrassed the hell out of you if you are an American.


I know they edited out right answers. Who knows how much editing they had to do? But still, it makes me think that maybe I'm not that smart after all. Maybe, just maybe, I'm deluding myself into thinking I'm smarter than I really am, by comparing myself with the over abundance of dimwits who infest our planet.

That clip reminded me of Rick Mercer's (he has a blog) funny piece about Americans and their knowledge about Canada; Talking To Americans.
Here is a clip of that show. It took place just before the 2000 USA Election for their Prime Minister (when in Rome...):


Watch more Talking To Americans clips here.

January 19, 2007

You Think Tony Soprano Was Pissed?

Remember the episode where Tony took Meadows new boyfriend Noah aside and told him to stay away from his daughter. Tony referred to him as a "charcoal briquet," because he was half black and half Jewish. I think it was the black part that really pushed Tony over the edge, but he made it clear that Meadow better just stick to dating Italians.

Many Italian homes and Jewish homes have unwritten rules that the kids grow up and marry their own kind. I'm sure it doesn't just stop with Jews and Italians, but parents from those homes tend to be the most "emotional" about the subject.

I find this to be hilarious (I use to love watching All In the Family). Though, it could be thought of an example of extreme intolerance. Either way it is comical.



This is more of an ethnic phenomena than a religious one. But I'm sure that the more religious the household is, the more extreme the "stick with your own" philosophy is taught.

My father started preaching stick with your own, but he mellowed out pretty quick. He might have been more hardcore if he took us to synagogue, but we were very secular. 3 out of 4 of us got married, and none of us to Jews.

I really can't think of any of my friends involved in a "mixed" marriage where the couple was shunned by their families. That might have happened in the old days. The lack of shunning doesn't stop the family whispering or the stigma altogether.

Of course, there are Orthodox Jews (and even secular Jews) that wouldn't even consider marrying or dating out. Again, I understand the religious Jews. In a home where one's life revolves around religion, it would be a difficult situation when bringing up kids to marry outside one's beliefs.

I don't think it is even a consideration to most Muslims to marry outside.

Ironically, Jews have a very high divorce rate in the US compared to other faiths:

Religion % have been divorced
Jews 30%
Born-again Christians 27%
Other Christians 24%
Atheists, Agnostics 21%

Note: Baptists came in at 29% and Catholics 21%.

When it is all said and done, it is the individual's choice which should be respected. The parents in the Youtube clip had every right to whine all they want (free speech), but no right to prevent a thing.

January 17, 2007

It Is All About Me

Click cartoon to enlarge it:


I got tagged again. This time, by Krystalline Apostate, for the Five Things About Me meme. On this blog and in my blog profile, I have revealed pretty much everything I wanted to reveal about me to date, but I will play the game like a good boy. I'll go with some trivial things about me:

1) I went to York University for 3 years but I didn't earn a BA. I majored in Psychology, and I enrolled in enough Psyche classes to get my BA, but in my third year, I took a course to do with computer stats and psychology. When I found out in the first class that because we were not computer students, we would have to take a backseat to anyone majoring in computer courses (I still think we were using punch cards back in 1983), and we might have to wait up to 3 hours when we had to use the few computers available on the campus. I quickly changed courses. The Psych courses that appealed to me were full, so I wound up taking World Geography. It was my intention at the time to come back in the fourth year and take nothing but Psych courses and earn a Masters, but during my third year, I got disillusioned with the idea of never leaving school. I figured that with a Masters I would wind up with a university position, so I decided to quit after the third year. I got a low B average (70) overall, and passed all 15 courses I took over the three years. And I have never lied about this on my resume.

2) I've never had a real driver's licence (I've had 3 temporary licences). I hate admitting this one. It really is a matter of not pursuing it enough. I have a brother who is a year younger than me, who couldn't wait to get his license when he turned 16, and he became all the wheels I needed for a few years. I did attempt to get a real licence (not just a temporary one) when I took a driving test when I was 25. Because of my age and the fact I didn't take any accredited driving courses, I failed...at least this is what I think. Then I moved from the burbs to downtown Toronto, where a car is a liability. Recently, upon moving to a small town, I have figured I could use a licence (even though I work from home), so I may give it a whirl. I have a temp right now. I even used my temp illegally to drive to Atlantic City once....20 years ago.

3) I'm a day older than Wayne Gretzky. I used to play basketball with the same creativity he played hockey, only I was too short (5' 11") and too slow to gain recognition.

4) I had sex on a public beach at around midnite on a Greek Island when I was 26. Lots of shooting stars (no light pollution). My victim was an English nurse. She was sympathetic to the fact that my then girlfriend broke up with me on another Island. Lots of people were on the beach, some only 10 feet away.
I still regret caring for that ex-girlfriend enough just before the final breakup on Ios to not take advantage of a certain situation. Our room was next to the room of two Swedish girls. My girlfriend stormed out to go to a bar, so I knocked on the Swedish girl's room because I needed someone to talk to. They apologized for not coming to the door quickly because they were in the middle of taking "Eve pictures." Instead of pursuing my natural instincts, I decided to whine about my current relationship. What a shmuck I was. I could have had too Swedish girls at once, and one was really hot. I mean really hot. I wound up going out partying with them, but ended up bumping into my ex. I did her one more time for the road. But I was thinking about the Swedish hottie.
I also had sex on a major hotel beach in daylight in Aruba with my then girlfriend, and now wife. It was in waist high water, and the nearest person to us had to be 30 feet away. It probably just looked like we were making out passionately, and madly in love, to anyone who happened to glimpse at us.
Oh yeah, my wife never reads my blog.

5) Up until recently, I co-owned race horses. The business became uneconomical for me, so I don't own any at this time. I am very knowlegable when it comes to horse racing, and I'm not just saying that. I haven't blogged about horse racing here, but I do have another blog that I contribute to. Cangamble is just a way to keep my employers informed more or less, in case they miss something.

I hate tagging real people so I will tag God, Jesus, Moses, The Tooth Fairy, and The Easter Bunny.

Added bonus pic. I just got a digital camera (so expect more pics). Jake and Daisy are pictured in this one. Jake (part border collie and probably part lab) is a recent acquisition. My youngest brother adopted Jake from an old lady who was shipped to an old folks home a couple of years ago. Jake is basically crippled in the back legs (he is big and old, probably 10 or 11). In October, my brother moved to a house with lots of stairs, and Jake couldn't handle them. My house has a large main floor and it is only a couple of stairs to a big backyard.
I don't know how he makes it on the couch because he can't do more than 2 stairs, but he is able to somehow use his back legs as temporary leverage.
He is our resident garbage can when it comes to food scraps. We don't feed scraps to Daisy....she is much too special for scraps.
Jake has close to no personality. I'm not bonding with him at all, but my wife gives him enough attention for the both of us.

January 15, 2007

Stereotype Meme

Since it is MLK day in the US, I figure it is as good a day as any to start a Stereotype Meme. If you intend to be PC, don't even bother trying this. Potential targets? Jews, Blacks, Asians, Fundies, Atheists, Arabs, Muslims, Agnostics, Catholics, Pro-Lifers, Pro-Choicers, Vegetarians, Republicans, Moonbats, Democrats, Liberals, Progressive Conservatives, YECs, NDPs, Satanists, Scientists, Pro Athletes, or anything you can think of.

This is what triggered the idea to start this:

This is what it would be like, if the majority of people were athiests.

ATHIEST KID: Mom, I'm going to go f*** a hooker.

ATHIEST MOM: Okay, son.

ATHIEST KID: Afterwards, I'm going to go smoke pot with my friends, since it's "not addictive."

ATHIEST MOM: Okay, come home soon!

The athiest kid leaves the room. The father comes home from work several minutes later.

ATHIEST DAD: Hey!

ATHIEST MOM: Hi, honey! I'm pregnant again. I guess I'll just get another abortion, since "fetuses don't count as human life."

ATHIEST DAD: Okay, get as many abortions as you want!

ATHIEST MOM: Oh, and don't go in the bedroom.

ATHIEST DAD: Why not?

ATHIEST MOM: There are two gay men f***ing eachother in there.

ATHIEST DAD: Why are they here?

ATHIEST MOM: I wanted to watch them do it for awhile. They just aren't finished yet.

ATHIEST DAD: Okay, that's fine with me!

Suddenly, their neighbor runs into the house.

ATHIEST NEIGHBOR: Come quick, there's a Christian outside!

ATHIEST MOM: We'll be right there!

The athiest couple quickly put on a pair of black robes and hoods. They then exit the house, and run into the street, where a Christian is nailed to a large, wooden X. He is being burned alive. A crowd of athiests stand around him, all wearing black robes and hoods.

RANDOM ATHIEST: Damn you, Christian! We hate you! We claim to be tolerant of all religions. But we really hate your's! That's because we athiests are hypocritical like that! Die, Christian!

THE END

Scary, isn't it?

Hat tip: Fundies Say The Darndest Things

Just a few corrections to the author, Prince of Pain: "AthIEst" is spelled AthEIst, "eachother" is really two words, and Atheists do not claim to be tolerant of all religions. Other than that, I think you nailed us Atheists.

In the comment section over at FSTDT, a couple of people already gave it a try:

Here is one by szenah. What it would be like if fundies were the majority:

Fundie kid: "Mom, I'm going to go beat up some fags."

Fundie mom: "Okay, dear, just be back in time for our afternoon prayers and blood-drinking ritual."

Fundie kid: "Of course. God will want to know what a good job I did defeating his enemies. Maybe I can kill one of them today."

Later, the fundie dad gets home from work and beats his wife to establish his Godly dominance in the family.

Fundie wife: "Thank you, dear. I'm so relieved that I have a real Christian man for a husband. Now can you pray for the healing of my broken nose and concussion?

Fundie husband: "Not until you have finished scrubbing the bathroom floor with a toothbrush, you sinful daughter of Eve." He goes to get his belt and stand over her as she scrubs, beating her if she misses a spot, in spite of her broken arm.

Suddenly a neighbor rushes in. "Come quick, we found a child reading a Harry Potter book. She's tied to a stake now and we're gathering wood for the fire. We need all the good Christians there to shout at the witch as she burns."

The fundies rush out, grabbing twigs from their yard as they go. "Praise God, it's so good that we have the chance to kill another heathen. We've burned five children in this neighborhood alone this year. The Lord is good."


And this from John making fun of Fundies too:

FUNDIE'S KID: Mom, I'm going to church.
FUNDIE MOM: Okay, son.
FUNDIE'S KID: Afterwards, I'm going to go read the Bible with my friends."
FUNDIE MOM: Okay, come home soon!

The kid leaves the room snickering and goes out to fuck a hooker and smoke pot. The father comes home from work several minutes later.

FUNDIE DAD: Hey!
FUNDIE MOM: Hi, honey! I'm pregnant again."
FUNDIE DAD: Jesus Christ! How'm I gonna to make the payments on my new pickup truck? And what about the big-screen TV we wanted? Hell, we don't even have medical insurance. Okay, you better get an abortion. Just don't tell our friends!

Suddenly, their neighbor runs into the house.
FUNDIE NEIGHBOR: Come quick, there's a Jew movin' into the neighborhood!
FUNDIE MOM: We'll be right there!

The fundie couple quickly put on a pair of white robes and hoods. They then exit the house, and run into the street, where a fundie is nailing together a large, wooden X. They set it on the new neighbor's lawn and light it on fire. A crowd of fundies stand around, all wearing white robes and hoods.

RANDOM FUNDIE: Damn you, Jew! We hate you! We claim to be tolerant of all religions. But we really hate yours! That's because we fundies are hypocritical like that! Die, Jew!

THE END


************The rules are that there has to be a mom, dad, kid, neighbor, and random character. You have to start with the premise "what if...."
Length doesn't matter, it is just the quality that counts
(where have I heard that before?). If you don't have a blog, feel free to leave your creation in my comment section. Warning: this is harder than it looks, and takes some creativity.

Meme trivia: the term Meme (rhymes with "theme") was coined by Atheist guru, Richard Dawkins, in 1976, and the word has evolved very much since then.

OK, now here goes my shot at this (I'm just going to use the anti-Atheists template).

What would it be like if Moonbats were in charge of the Western world:

MOONBAT SON: Mom, I'm going to Mosque.

MOONBAT MOM: Excellent idea son. Even though we don't believe in what Islam teaches, it is important that we do what Muslims want, or they might kill us if they get pissed off.

MOONBAT KID: (After coming home from the Mosque) I'm going to City Hall to the protest march. The government is still making people who enter the country use passports. We must put a stop to this.

MOONBAT MOM: Okay, come home soon I'm cooking dinner right now.

MOONBAT SON: What are we having? Porkchops? Just kidding, I know that pork is banned.

The moonbat son leaves the room. The father comes home from work several minutes later.

MOONBAT DAD: Hi darling, I agreed to take in a new boarder. You'll like him.

MOONBAT MOM: Of course I will. Is he a murderer who came from a broken home, like our last boarder?

MOONBAT DAD: No, this time it is a serial child molester who came from a broken home.

MOONBAT MOM: That is great. We'll reform him. He just needs a chance.

MOONBAT DAD: Yes, it is important for us to gain his trust.

MOONBAT MOM: Good idea, I'll set the up bunk beds in our son's room. That will make him trust us.

MOONBAT DAD: Yes. And make sure you give our new boarder choice if he wants the top or the bottom.

MOONBAT MOM: I just hope he doesn't think we are coming on too strong, and thinks that we are phonies. Remember, he is a victim. We must nurture him accordingly.

Suddenly, their neighbor runs into the house.

MOONBAT NEIGHBOR: Come quick, there is an Arab with a machine gun!

MOONBAT MOM: We'll be right there!

The Moonbat couple goes outside to join the MOONBAT crowd gathered around the Arab. The Arab is looking to see if there are any Jews left in the neighborhood. The Moonbat couple can only think of the people 6 houses down because they have a Jewish sounding last name, but they aren't sure if they are Jews or not because they don't look Jewish.

RANDOM MOONBAT: I never liked those people anyways. They didn't come to the Cindy Sheehan lecture at the stadium.....Remember Rachel Corrie!

THE END

Anyone can do this. I tag everyone. I especially tag Southfield at Keeping Up With The Blogses, Michael at A Few Random Thoughts, and Lex at Gripes of Wrath.

January 13, 2007

Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion Are True: The Cat Is Out Of The Bag


Hat tip: Fluid Mind

About the singer/writer from his Myspace site:

Rav Shmuel is a rabbi who drinks beer and plays original compositions on his guitar. He has a beard and sidelocks and he loves The Dead. He does not see an inconsistency between these two identities. Rather, he thinks of Judaism and music as complementary and often coalescing tools and methods for communication (blah blah blah).

Rav, who has taught Jewish Philosophy and Talmud at various Universities, has also toured the country with Gefiltefish, his first stateside band, playing sold-out parking lots before and after Phish shows. He does not play klezmer, although he does make the odd Maimonidean joke. He thinks of himself as a Rock Star.


Speaking of the Protocols of the the Elders of Zion, PBS just aired a program, Anti-Semitism in the 21st Century. I found it pretty fair when it came to the history of the Israeli conflict. It was only an hour show, so it was difficult to cover everything properly. I was slightly taken aback by the emphasis on blaming Christians as the root source of Arab/Muslim hatred of the Jews. I think that is oversimplifying things a tad.

They did make the Arab nations out as hate mongering assmonkeys for their collective acceptance of the Protocols, and their perpetual teaching of it. It must be humiliating for 350 million Arabs constantly losing to 5 million Jews, so they must cling to conspiracy theories and known forgeries to keep their egos up.

Of course, Paliphile viewers found the PBS show to be extremely biased. But what else is new. Historical fact and the truth is not on the side of Paliphiles.


Read some pro and con comments/reviews here.

January 11, 2007

Science News: Monkeys Wear Perfume?

I really like World Science. They have a lot of really interesting articles that are pretty easy to read.

Here is one that caught my eye:

Sci­en­tists have been re­porting sight­ings of wild spi­der mon­keys rub­bing them­selves with chewed-up leaves that may func­tion as per­fumes. Although it’s un­pro­ven that they do it spe­ci­fi­cal­ly to take on an aro­ma, mount­ing ev­i­dence points that way, the in­vest­i­ga­t­ors say.

I know, I know. The sentence has Fundies favorite "scientific term" in it; unproven. Yes, this is "still a theory." This means that further findings and studies may falsify the theory. Again, not to be confused with evolution and the mounds and mounds and mounds of evidence that has turned evolution into a fact, although there a many sub theories within it. Evolution is fact because it even observable. Take the cane toads in Australia for example, and the snakes that pray on them.

Again, if evolution were false, there would be mounds of evidence that contradicts it. Just as there is mounds of evidence that contradicts the old theory that the sun revolved around the earth.

The world is a wonderful place when you accept scientific facts and findings.


And who says that apes are so different from man. Oh yeah, the Fundies. Well, check this out. Chimps have obviously discovered a great way to relieve stress.
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Still thinks man is special? The above video gets me thinking. First off, I wasn't able to see the front of the altruistic chimp, so I couldn't tell if it was a he or a she.
Was this nature or nurture? And if nurture, was it taught by man? Maybe Ted Haggard is working on a new flock. Baptist chimps? It has been done before.



But if this wasn't taught by man(by man I mean man or woman), it had to be taught by chimp, and then it inevitably has to be nature, unless you believe God told the chimps what to do. Who would have thought that every sperm isn't sacred?

The chimps have come up with a great way to help mankind progress.
For a good 15 to 20 minutes Louie is void of aggression. The female can go on with her daily chores knowing she won't be bothered for at least 15 minutes and Louie can now think about things like a feeding his family, building towns, curing cancer, etc.

I wonder what our world would be like if humans were just like Louie and his friend.

Meanwhile, I'm bringing a large stone into the bedroom and I'm gonna take off my clothes, get on top of the stone and act like a chimp. Lets see what the wife does.

January 9, 2007

What Attracts Atheist Jews To Israel

I have been arguing/debating/lecturing a few people on the Raving Atheist forums lately on the fact that a very high percentage of Jews in Israel are Atheist or Agnostic, that the majority of Jews in Israel never attend synagogue on Saturday mornings, and that the founder of modern Zionism, Theodor Herzl was in fact an Atheist Jew.

This is something that many Israeli bashers really don't like. They like to blame the Israeli conflict on religion. Sure, the land of Israel was picked because it was the birthplace of the religion, but the reasons for Jews to go live there are very mixed.

I just want to make something clear. I am happy to live in Canada at this moment and have no desire to live in Israel, so I can only speculate (a very good educational guess) as to exactly why an Atheist or Agnostic Jew would want to live in the land promised by the Invisible Sky Fairy.

1. To escape anti-semitism. This was Herzl's main goal. Unfortunately, his dream didn't happen before Hitler proved his point. Anti-semitism can get out of hand anywhere in the world at any time. Recently, many Jews left France for Israel to further justify this point in today's "modern" world. Nobody mentioned if these French Jews believed in God or to what degree. In other words, I wouldn't be surprised if many non believers were amongst those who migrated to Israel. Anti-semitism is a hatred of ethnic Jews more than it is of religious Jews. If I was in France and saw what was going on there first hand, I might have jumped ship too.
This idea of escaping anti-semitism can be equated today as assuring oneself that he or she will be treated as an equal.

2. To be with family. Lets face it, most Atheist Jews have religious Jewish relatives. If economically viable, for example, a family business, I can see why a Jew may leave for Israel. Also, one person, a husband or wife may become very religious in his or her life and ultimately decide to live out the rest of their life in Israel, taking the family with them. There is no assurance that some or most of the family share equal beliefs.

3. Atheist Jews born in Israel. Contrary to the garbage fed by Liberal Israeli haters and the Arab media, over 65% of Jews alive today in Israel were born in Israel. Israel is a modern country with a modern education system. And education creates Atheists. Scientific facts, geology, and archaeology all make a literal bible nothing more than a Dr. Seuss novel. From there, the more questions one asks (and Jews are taught to ask questions), the higher the probality that one who honestly looks at the answers, will turn into an Agnostic if not Atheist in many instances.


The above reasons leads to another main reason for an Atheist Jew to go to Israel:

4. Politics.

Where on this planet can an open Atheist get elected and become a trusted politician, with a high post?

Not many places, and definitely not the USA (Atheists are the least trusted minority in the USA), and probably even Canada today.

Now where can an open Atheist Jew get elected and become a trusted politician, with a high post? A religious Jew has a shot, just don't admit to Atheism. In other words lie about yourself.
Hey, wait a sec, isn't being a good liar a prerequisite to making it big as a Politician in the US?

The only place an open Atheist Jew can get to the top or near the top politically is most likely Israel. Maybe, Denmark, Sweden, and even the UK (guaranteed assassination in the UK), too. But you'd have to be slightly to aggressively anti-Zionist in those three countries to make it.

Separation of church and state doesn't matter much when it comes getting votes in a country where the majority believes in God. Politics shouldn't be like that, but even today, this is the way it is in the USA and Canada to a lesser extent.


To conclude, if I want my political ideas to be considered on an equal playing field (where religion does not matter), I can only have this Utopian equality in Israel.

Some Atheists have defied the odds in the world. Surprisingly Wikipedia lists 3 from India. Many were communist, but only one was brutal (Stalin, the poster boy for political Atheists in the Theist world). Former Polish president Aleksander Kwaƛniewski, is an Atheist, but his voters thought he was just an indifferent Agnostic. Agnostics can get away with so much more socially than Atheists because they can still be saved (to the Theist). Agnostics are just one crisis away from being devoutly religious (to the Theist).


The Wikipedia list is most likely missing quite a few Atheist politicians. Especially those in Israel.

Remember this exchange with George Bush Sr.:

Sherman (interviewer from American Atheists): What will you do to win the votes of the Americans who are atheists?

Bush: I guess I'm pretty weak in the atheist community. Faith in God is important to me.

Sherman: Surely you recognize the equal citizenship and patriotism of Americans who are atheists?

Bush: No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God.

Sherman (somewhat taken aback): Do you support as a sound constitutional principle the separation of state and church?

Bush: Yes, I support the separation of church and state. I'm just not very high on atheists.


Right now, an equal political chance doesn't matter to me and I don't feel threatened as an ethnic Jew, so it is still Oh Canada for me.

January 7, 2007

What Liberal Assmonkeys Don't Get About Israel

I like using the word "assmonkey." I want this blog to be the number one match when it comes to anyone searching the term on Google.

An assmonkey is someone who refuses to try to understand a concept or idea without fully understanding it, and takes actions based on their misunderstand or wilful ignorance of the facts. Action can include preaching and writing, as well as suicide bombings or demonstrations. An assmonkey can also be someone who supports assmonkeys. Yes, one can be an assmonkey by association.

One can be an assmonkey when it comes to a lot of things.

Religious assmonkey: those who oppose gay marriage because of religious reasons or someone who uses their book of God to override scientific fact (there are many more examples of religious assmonkeys).

Arab/Muslim assmonkey: an Arab/Muslim who supports suicide bombings for any reason; Arab/Muslims who refuse to understand and point the finger at who really is responsible and in many cases invent conspiracy theories and/or readily believe them.

Anti-semitic assmonkey: do a search of Mark Glenn assmonkey to see what I mean.

Liberal assmonkeys: much like the Arab/Muslim assmonkey, the Liberal assmonkey has a very hard time figuring out who the real victim is (or underdog), because they have an overwhelming tendency to believe, that automatically, the victim or underdog is the person or group that cries victimhood the most, and in most cases has less material goods than those they are whining about. They also have a tendency to allow these "victims" to be as blameless as humanly possible. Liberal assmonkeys believe rapes, suicide bombings, and even murder MUST have been MOSTLY caused by THE MAN, SOCIETY, or, THE GOVERNMENT.

I'm pretty much a Liberal when it comes to most causes and issues, but I'm not a Liberal Assmonkey. I look at all situations on a individual basis and as objectively as I can. If I don't have enough information, I really don't like to comment on it or make assumption. I ask a lot of questions, and I do a lot of Google searches when I'm in doubt.

I think anyone who questions Israel's right of existence is either extremely biased or just doesn't have enough information.

Without repeating myself too much, I have already written a post about my secular justification for Israel. I will now reiterate the main points and add a few new ones:

1. Jews in Europe in the late 1800's were facing growing anti-semitism. It was mostly ethnic in nature and not religious, but at a time when most Jews were also religious to a much larger degree than today, religion did play a bigger part in it than it did at the time of Nazi Germany. So Jews began to lobby for their own space where they could be treated as equals. The Palestine region was the birthplace of Judaism and it was also relatively empty. There were only 500,000 inhabitants on the same land that has 9 million inhabitants today.

2. The Palestine region was not sovereign territory. This is a biggie. Check out a world map. Look at the boundaries. Pick any. Find me one sovereign nation that was created where MIGHT DIDN'T MAKE RIGHT. "Might" can include negotiations and lobbying with the previous controllers of the non sovereign land, and of course, war. The formula for every sovereign (independent) state in the world is: MIGHT MAKES RIGHT UNTIL SOVEREIGN. Why do Liberal Assmonkeys expect Israel to be the only nation on this planet to have been formed where every one of the natives were happy?

3. Migration: Demographics change everywhere. Except, for some reason, they are not supposed to change in the Middle East, unless the change means getting rid of non Arabs/Muslims. Everywhere else:
Land is either owned and/or governed. That is it. That is how land works. Land is just dirt, plain and simple. Only 20% of the land controlled by Britain in 1947 was owned by Arabs, and only 3.3% by those who actually lived there. There is no such thing as Palestinian land, Muslim land, Arab land, Jewish land, Atheist land, Caucasian land, Christian land, etc. Jews migrating to the Palestine region were doing so mostly legally. And by 1947, an area that had a Jewish majority population was designated as the state that would have Jewish governance and in the future it would allow Jews who felt discriminated against anywhere on the planet a place of refuge.
BIG FRICKEN DEAL. Well, it was to the intolerant Arabs, and still is.
I'll ask the Liberal assmonkeys; why is it OK for Dearborn to become a Muslim majority city, but it was such a crime to humanity that certain areas of the Palestine region (which again was not sovereign) became mostly populated by Jews?
Read this before you answer.

4. Right of Return: First the obvious; most Palestinians alive today were not born within the sovereign portion of Israel. Here is my analogy:

If my grandfather had a mansion worth 1 million dollars in 1948, and he got upset because an Arab family moved in next door. His family members told him to go take a vacation for a week or two.
He decided to go to Vegas where he lost everything including his house.
And lets say my grandfather had to go rent somewhere else for the rest of his life.

Now the mansion is worth 50 million. Can I lay claim to the mansion?

Palestinian Arabs are the only people on this planet who claim to be genetic refugees.

One more fact for my Liberal Assmonkey friends. A very high percentage of Palestinian Arabs who left during the 1948 War of Independence were given the opportunity to come back, but refused because the Arab Mufti told them not to return. Read actual news clips here and here.
It was the neighboring Arab nations that began the 1948 war.

They didn't give a rats ass when it came to the indigenous Arabs. And they had no right to start a war in the Palestine region. It was not their business.

They were simply intolerant that a small chunk of land that had a Jewish majority in 1947 was to be partitioned off as a JEWISH GOVERNED state.

5. The West Bank and Gaza are up for grabs. Jordan gave up any rights they may have had to the West Bank in 1987. The lands in Gaza and the West Bank are NOT sovereign right now. They are still in the MIGHT WILL MAKE RIGHT category as far as land on this planet goes (Gaza, through lobbying and negotiation is now a Jew free zone). But Jewish settlers have every right to the land as Arabs do. At least to the land that is unowned. Why are Jews considered settlers there, but Arabs are not? In fact, Arabs are settlers in the West Bank too. Read this excellent analogy on the situation.

6. Claims of Apartheid: Israel does not have any obligation to give equal status to non citizens living on non sovereign lands. In Puerto Rico, the citizens there pay some taxes to the USA, but only those deemed Americans can vote in the US election.
The same was true in Hawaii until Hawaii became a state in 1959. Lets not forget that those living in Hawaii were not trying to blow up Americans, so the US treated them better than Israel treats the Palestinian assmonkeys.

7. Victimhood. The Palestinians may be victims, but they aren't victims of Israel.
They are victims Arab intolerance and the surrounding Arab countries. They are victims of their own leaders. Blaming Israel is ridiculous. IF THE PALESTINIANS/ARABS DROPPED THEIR WEAPONS THERE WOULD BE PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

Israel has been defending itself since it became a legal sovereign nation, yet Liberal assmonkeys buy into the lie that Israel is the aggressor. If you still believe this, go seek help.


Bonus: GAZACAM
Watch the Hamas brain trust in action:


Read the Sudanese Thinker's Thoughts on Zionism. Good stuff. He still doesn't get everything, but he is close.

January 5, 2007

Buzzing Around The Internet

A Canuckian professional writer and friend of mine just started his own blog: Keeping Up With The Blogses. Check it out. He seems to have an opinion about everything. I enjoy reading blogs from professional writers. For example, I frequently visit Rondi's blog: Begin Each Day As If It Were On Purpose. She is Canuckian too, and gets the war on terror, just like my friend does.

I went back to check out Advice From God. I admit it, that blogger is funnier than me.
And it takes a real man and a great man to admit this.
Laugh out loud humor is difficult when restricted to the written word. Speaking of laugh out loud humor, Professor Kurgman Phd., Phd., Phd. ranks right at the top. And his illegitimate daughter's site is very funny too: Kathy Blog. She doesn't post that much because she is in the middle of earning her Phd.'s.

Celebrity blogs are in these days. I especially like the one where you can leave comments and assume that the celebrity actually reads it. Mark Cuban, computer billionaire has a blog. Seems he doesn't like the Donald too much, and he took Rosie's side recently in their View war.
I am taking Rosie's side too. She is a comedian, and she didn't say anything that was untrue. Donald really cost himself large by calling her "ugly" and a "fat pig."
Way to alienate half of America, Donald. Expect the Apprentice ratings to plummet.

Good to see Julia Sweeney making rounds on TV talk shows. She is an ex-Catholic who let go of God. She is promoting her CD, Letting Go Of God. And she does have a blog, but I find the people there a bit pretentious.

Thanks to The Judge at Raving Atheists, I found a great site that has lots of old TV shows avaliable for free. Here is the site.

One of my favorite Twilight Zone episodes: To Serve Man


Jack's Shack found a site that has links to the 50 greatest cartoons ever made.

I have always loved this one:


And the Palestinians are still assmonkeys. Somethings never change. If you don't believe me, just read Elder Of Ziyon's blog anytime.

I'm picking the Baltimore Ravens to win the Super Bowl.

Finally, some more proof of evolution:

I know that Kathy from Relapsed Catholic will dismiss it because it was probably done by someone who went to university.

January 2, 2007

THE INTERNET WILL BE THE DEATH OF YOUNG EARTH CREATIONISM

Religious Fundamentalists (those who believe the earth is young and evolution is crap) beware. The internet is your enemy. You may not have realized this before, or maybe you still haven't, but facts are not your friend either.

Do yourself a favor Fundies, and throw your computer away. Get your kids away from the computer too, or they may turn into Godless infidels. And guess who is most responsible for turning religious fence sitters into devout Agnostics? Who is responsible for those who went from not asking questions, to those who are all of a sudden curious about Fundamental beliefs they used to believe were gospel? It isn't Richard Dawkins and it isn't Sam Harris either. Fence sitters don't usually get to their wonderful material.
No, it is the Fundies who have the audacity to confront Atheists, scientists, Agnostics, etc. who are to blame.

Fundies have to understand that your religious spew and groundless faith only works when you have an audience of faithful listeners. When they go out of their realm, they are like a chicken walking into the mouth of a hungry crocodile. They don't have a chance.

The big problem is they want to debate things like evolution and the age of the earth with no facts behind you. Their answers may be impressive to fellow Fundies when there are nothing but Fundies around, but they get squashed by a bug when you deal with anyone who doesn't deny reality.


They are tiresome with the same old arguments. "Evolution is only a theory." As soon as I see this, I realize that the person stating it, has no real idea about evolution or science, and doesn't want to understand it either.

So why do Atheists like me bother with confrontational Fundies? The answer is simple: I do it for the lurkers.

I realize I will most likely not change the uneducated opinion of a Fundy by supporting my arguments with up to date links from real science sites (they don't bother clicking the links usually). I am going to change the opinion of the odd lurker, though.

When a Fundy says there is no proof for evolution, and I respond with 10 links, I know that in many cases, I will make a difference with some lurkers. Facts are facts. Fundies arguing that the earth is young for example, might as well state the earth is made of chocolate. They inevitably make themselves look like baseless fools.

It is apparent, they have nothing but faith. Yet they want to pretend that they have science behind them. They constantly move the goal posts during "debates" too by avoiding questions, and changing their assertions. I remember one "debate" recently where the Fundy went from stating that God is easily provable, to God is easily provable on a spiritual level (WTF?), when I asked for the easy proof.

Youtube is also making a difference too. There is a phenomenal amount of creative people out there who, in an intelligent manner, mock the ridiculous claims made by Fundamentalists.

Todays children have too many facts in front of them. And even if they had no intention of asking questions, they are seeing the real replies to the silly denials and ludicrous assertions that Fundies are spewing.

I can see Fundamental Christians looking for a way to ban a tremendous amount of the internet from their households....Saudi Arabia does this.

I find that Fundies don't like it when I state the following in a "debate":

1. There is no contemporary historical evidence Jesus ever existed. (Josephus was not contemporary) Can I have your best piece of evidence?

2. There is no historical evidence the Exodus happened. Forget the Hyksos, I'm talking about what the OT states.

3. Find me one scientific study that refutes or contradicts evolution. If evolution were false, there would be many, but you can't find one piece for me.

4. There is no evidence that there was a worldwide Great Flood. Local floods, yes, but not a worldwide one. Oh yeah, the idea of the Ark story is embarrassing to believe.

5. If the earth was young, why can't a Fundy scientist come up with a way to prove it?


The best a Fundy can do is try to poke holes in evolution theory. And that is when it gets good, because that is when the links come out and the lurkers get a free education:)

And when overwhelmed by evidence the young earth creationist will finally concede that any contradiction between science and the literal word of the bible can easily be explained. From a recent discussion on a Fundy blog:



“Kerwin, if you believe in a trickster God, I can’t argue with you. “ The Atheist Jew


If this below passage describes a trickster God then I do believe in a trickster God.

Deuteronomy 13(NIV)

“1 If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a miraculous sign or wonder, 2 and if the sign or wonder of which he has spoken takes place, and he says, “Let us follow other gods” (gods you have not known) “and let us worship them,” 3 you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The LORD your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 It is the LORD your God you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him.”

Comment by Kerwin — thep31e12beFri, 29 Dec 2006 03:07:15

Yep, the word of God clearly states that he throws curve balls, like dinosaur bones and an earth that appears, to every reputable geologist on this planet, to be 4.5 billion years old, just to test ones faith in HIM.


If you believe scientists, you don't love God as much as you should.

So basically all the evidence in the world means nothing to a devout Fundy.

Fundies will believe that woman came from Adam's rib (with zero evidence such a thing could happen outside the bible), but can't buy into evolution (with the mounds and mounds of evidence that evolution happens).

Fundies so far have avoided major debates with large audiences. I think the big Fundy guns realize they have nothing. I'd love to see Ann Coulter in an honest debate about evolution with Richard Dawkins.
Unfortunately, it will never happen. Dawkins would make her look like a monkey.


Oh, I found another very funny site, especially if you want first hand Advice From God.