tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post114764623455762460..comments2023-10-20T05:48:35.458-04:00Comments on THE ATHEIST JEW: A HUGE KNOCK AGAINST AMERICAN ATHEISTSUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1148493964550010882006-05-24T14:06:00.000-04:002006-05-24T14:06:00.000-04:00Hdoff? I don't get it.I think Lya makes excellent...Hdoff? I don't get it.<BR/>I think Lya makes excellent points and having read her story about how she almost became a Jew on her blog gives me good background on where she is coming from.<BR/>I think she is much more knowledgable then you, and even me, when it comes to Israel.<BR/>She is extremely intelligent and you aren't winning too many points calling her stupid, especially if others are reading this.<BR/>I suggest you go to her blog and look up her 3 posts on how she became an Atheist before you go any further slamming her.Baconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1148397004542642212006-05-23T11:10:00.000-04:002006-05-23T11:10:00.000-04:00Hey, I wanna pile on here. Don't knock Alabama! ...Hey, I wanna pile on here. Don't knock Alabama! Trust me, a jackass like that, atheist, Bible-banging, or whatever, wouldn't get elected in this state. We don't elect racist white trash here. Maybe in some podunk town he might get elected dog-catcher, but not this, no way.<BR/>;-)<BR/><BR/>/gotta stick up for BamaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1148389956429364362006-05-23T09:12:00.000-04:002006-05-23T09:12:00.000-04:00RA, I said MOST people who criticize Israel, not a...RA, I said MOST people who criticize Israel, not all people.<BR/>You don't have to take my word for the fact that Israel is criticized and other countries are not. It is a fact and easily proved if you have the time.<BR/>Facts are facts, I only have so many answers for so many questions, so at least I'm being consistent at the risk of making a statement that loses its punch over time.<BR/>I've never been to Israel, but I'm very familiar with the situation. I have never got into a heated discussion with a live Palestinian though. But I've seen enough interviewed, and I have their own words on some of my multimedia here on my blog. I don't doubt I have a bias, but I also have a bias against those who believe in a young earth. I have done loads of research on this subject, and I used to think there was hope. I am not for genocide, but I am being honest that the Palestinians contribute nothing to humanity and their only goal is to destroy Israel.<BR/>Do a blog search for "Amona" with my blog to see some criticism. The poll is sort of tongue in cheek but it reflects the fact that I have no respect for the Palestinians anymore....especially after the Hamas vote.<BR/><BR/>And I am always open to new facts and information being the Atheist that I am.Baconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1148357817014052732006-05-23T00:16:00.000-04:002006-05-23T00:16:00.000-04:00BEAJ:A, most people who criticize Israel are anti-...BEAJ:<BR/><B>A, most people who criticize Israel are anti-semites first.</B><BR/>I dunno. I tend to criticize Israel, but I don't really hate anyone. <BR/><B>You rarely see these dudes also criticize Saudi Arabia, the Darfur situation, etc, with the same vigor.</B><BR/>I'll have to take your word for that. <BR/><B>No country is perfect and no country was formed with 100% native approval. </B><BR/>You say that so often, it's starting to lose its punch.<BR/><B>But Israel seems to get way more attention than any other conflict on this planet, and most of it is based on bad information.</B> <BR/>There's a lot of reasons for that.<BR/>As the major democracy in that part of the world, it's gonna get eyeballed a lot. <BR/>As for bad info, well, who do I trust? Nothing personal, but you seem to have a distinct bias. <BR/>& before you start throwing down, forbear, please:<BR/>You seem to infer that everyone would be better off if the Palis were extinquished. Your recent 'Poll' evinces a distasteful (at least to me) bias. You've stated, as memory serves, that 'If you're pro-humanity, you can't be pro-Palistinean'.<BR/>& honestly: have you been over there? In the ME? Do you even KNOW any Palis? <BR/>While I am in no way anti-Israel (I think the whole argument about 'existence' is a moot point either way: they're there, they exist, it's a stupid talking point), in no way am I anti-Arab either.<BR/>I'd rather examine the facts & make my own conclusions, rather than taking any 1 person's word for it.<BR/><B>That being said, I've criticized Israel previously and the settlers on this blog btw.</B><BR/>I'm fairly unfamiliar w/your blog: I'll poke about, & see.<BR/>Thanks, BTW, for your update to the post.Krystalline Apostatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09044558668644447375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1148356696434531572006-05-22T23:58:00.000-04:002006-05-22T23:58:00.000-04:00The Comment Pimpette:Wow.They have been intentiona...The Comment Pimpette:<BR/>Wow.<BR/><B>They have been intentionally misused by some Muslims and non-Muslims alike to advance wholly political agendas, with total disregard for accompanying teachings that overwhelmingly condemn self-aggrandizing militarism and offensive war-mongering.</B><BR/>Yep. Same thing's been done w/almost every religious text in history.<BR/>I came to the same conclusions after reading the Qu'ran verses you've quoted.<BR/>& I'm an atheist.<BR/>I've done some research into the other side, & found that what I've been told is not quite what's there in black & white.<BR/>We also tend to forget that the muslim faith has had some positive sides to it. The Medinaists. The Sufis. The Baha'i.<BR/>Religion tends to reflect humanity, in both its perversity, as well as its benignness. Unfortunately, it leans more towards the former.Krystalline Apostatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09044558668644447375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1148214092050249302006-05-21T08:21:00.000-04:002006-05-21T08:21:00.000-04:00RA, most people who criticize Israel are anti-semi...RA, most people who criticize Israel are anti-semites first. You rarely see these dudes also criticize Saudi Arabia, the Darfur situation, etc, with the same vigor. No country is perfect and no country was formed with 100% native approval. But Israel seems to get way more attention than any other conflict on this planet, and most of it is based on bad information. That being said, I've criticized Israel previously and the settlers on this blog btw.Baconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1148186062656962862006-05-21T00:34:00.000-04:002006-05-21T00:34:00.000-04:00BEAJ:But I figure someone would say something.Well...BEAJ:<BR/><B>But I figure someone would say something.</B><BR/>Well, silence doesn't always signify assent.<BR/>I rarely come here. NGB is my usual hangout.<BR/><B>Some of the regulars here post on the No God Blog.</B><BR/>The only person I've seen thus far has been Lya, & I don't think she goes there much anymore (but I can't speak for her, so I don't know for sure).<BR/><B>But I'm glad someone came to their defense finally.</B><BR/>Well, honestly, I've been at the NGB for about a year now. & I've seen a lot go on there. Anti-zionists actually do receive short shrift from the majority. Anti-semites have been wailed on. <BR/>& for the record, I'm now 1/2 way afraid to criticize Israel in any way. Lest I be labelled anti-semite.<BR/>Nice going.Krystalline Apostatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09044558668644447375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1148176016947622122006-05-20T21:46:00.000-04:002006-05-20T21:46:00.000-04:00I realize that. But I figure someone would say so...I realize that. But I figure someone would say something. Some of the regulars here post on the No God Blog. But I'm glad someone came to their defense finally.Baconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1148174101152659842006-05-20T21:15:00.000-04:002006-05-20T21:15:00.000-04:00BEAJ:I was almost convinced I wasn't because nobod...BEAJ:<BR/><B>I was almost convinced I wasn't because nobody up until now said something.</B><BR/>Truthfully, after that last debacle, I don't think you got too many readers from that blog.Krystalline Apostatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09044558668644447375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1148171220358505862006-05-20T20:27:00.000-04:002006-05-20T20:27:00.000-04:00Thanks RA. I will post an update. I did a search...Thanks RA. I will post an update. I did a search at the no god blog and couldn't find anything, so I was waiting to see if I was wrong. I was almost convinced I wasn't because nobody up until now said something.Baconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1148161553303709722006-05-20T17:45:00.000-04:002006-05-20T17:45:00.000-04:00Oops, sorry, misspelled 'Silverman'.Oops, sorry, misspelled 'Silverman'.Krystalline Apostatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09044558668644447375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1148161499558880622006-05-20T17:44:00.000-04:002006-05-20T17:44:00.000-04:00BEAJ:I think maybe you need to do some research ne...BEAJ:<BR/>I think maybe you need to do some research next time.<BR/>I did some digging around on this post, & apparently, according to this:<BR/>www.centerforatheism.org/newsletters<BR/>The <B>Aug. 4 2005</B> specifically says,<BR/>"We wish to confirm and underscore this fact. Darby has not served in that capacity as a <B>Director for over two years.</B> Many of his activities and statements, <B>especially concerning the Holocaust as well as how he conducts himself regarding Atheist, Freethought, Humanist or nonbeliever groups and individuals, do not in any way reflect the official position of American Atheists or its officers.</B>"<BR/><BR/>So your commentary is seriously 3 years outta date.<BR/><BR/>As to this:<BR/><B>I feel American Atheists and their No God Blog has an overwhelming anti-Israel bias there. </B><BR/>That simply isn't so.<BR/>That's the fallacy of the unrepresented example, BTW. <BR/>Do me a favor, & google 'spotlight, nogodblog', or 'chad hetman',nogodblog'.<BR/>Or maybe you should email David Silveman, an <B>atheist</B> Jew, & maybe just ask him about it.Krystalline Apostatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09044558668644447375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1148139632118052232006-05-20T11:40:00.000-04:002006-05-20T11:40:00.000-04:00Pimpette, the point is that many Islamic leaders s...Pimpette, the point is that many Islamic leaders seem to be using these bastardized versions of the Koran as Gospel. So different interpretations do exist, and are being acted out.<BR/><BR/>Snoopy, you have it confused. Lawyers have balls, but no heart.Baconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1148114553923842352006-05-20T04:42:00.000-04:002006-05-20T04:42:00.000-04:00"If I saw him tomorrow I would kick him in the bal..."If I saw him tomorrow I would kick him in the balls."<BR/><BR/>He is a lawyer, so no balls there. Perish the thought ;-)SnoopyTheGoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00920565522498918323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1148085513349713792006-05-19T20:38:00.000-04:002006-05-19T20:38:00.000-04:00Can you refute what this guy says here, Pimpette.Can you refute what this guy says <A HREF="http://pedestrianinfidel.blogspot.com/2005/09/true-islam-quick-summary-with-verses.html" REL="nofollow">here,</A> Pimpette.Baconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1147995444454907922006-05-18T19:37:00.000-04:002006-05-18T19:37:00.000-04:00Lya is extremely intelligent Pimpette.And just bec...Lya is extremely intelligent Pimpette.<BR/><BR/>And just because you don't like the messenger doesn't mean you shot down the message.<BR/><BR/>She is absolulely right, and faithfreedomm has a point.<BR/><BR/>Who is to say that isn't the interpretation. And when you look at the atrocities done by Muslims in the world today, how can you say that they aren't taking those interpretations to heart.<BR/><BR/>That being said, I admire what you are trying to do on your blog regarding getting Muslims to speak out against terror. Unfortunately I predict you will have to get used to crickets chirping.Baconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1147974122066759022006-05-18T13:42:00.000-04:002006-05-18T13:42:00.000-04:00Pimpette, can you comment on the conclusions made ...Pimpette, can you comment on the conclusions <A HREF="http://www.ebonmusings.org/atheism/guestessays/islam_peace.html" REL="nofollow">made here</A>?Baconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1147896606634422392006-05-17T16:10:00.000-04:002006-05-17T16:10:00.000-04:00200,000 people will not be removed from the the hi...200,000 people will not be removed from the the highly populated Jewish settlements. It isn't feasible.<BR/>I was all for the Gaza withdrawal.<BR/>Fatah is hardly the good guys. Just a lesser terrorist group that looked like they were up for negotiating.<BR/>56% of Palis voted Hamas, and 56% still support suicide bombings.<BR/>Intense negotiations weren't on the table until after the election....if Fatah won.<BR/><BR/>Nuff said.Baconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1147885643812862752006-05-17T13:07:00.000-04:002006-05-17T13:07:00.000-04:00I know it wasn't your intention, but thanks just t...I know it wasn't your intention, but thanks just the same:)<BR/><BR/>He has a nasty habit of shooting the messenger, while rarely refuting the message.<BR/><BR/>The rest of your post Lya, was excellent.Baconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1147868314377807852006-05-17T08:18:00.000-04:002006-05-17T08:18:00.000-04:00Sharon was elected because innocent Jews were bein...Sharon was elected because innocent Jews were being killed, so Israel wanted someone to PROTECT them. <BR/>Israel was negotiating with Fatah prior to the election.<BR/>Again, you are spinning from the reality of the situation in order to apologize for the Palestinians. If they were truly desperate and wanted a state, they would never have considered Hamas.<BR/>56% of Palestinians, the same number who voted for Hamas, still support suicide bombing.<BR/>If you are in a union and you don't want to strike, but 56% vote for strike, you are SOL. In life, innocent people get affected by majority decisions. That is life.<BR/>And these people have to live with the consequences at no fault of their own. Except, there is no big voice in Palestinian areas that cry for a peaceful state next to Israel. <BR/>Steve hardly answers any of my questions, and just attacks my message, not even the facts. He is useless.Baconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1147826490240595332006-05-16T20:41:00.000-04:002006-05-16T20:41:00.000-04:00The reason I make an exception for you is because ...The reason I make an exception for you is because I believe you will do background reading and you are open to learning, and you will address almost every point thrown at you.<BR/>This is why I have a problem with Steve. He has no substance and cherry picks what he responds to.<BR/>I have become more of a hardliner of late, I finally got TOTALLY fed up with the Palestinians once they voted for Hamas.<BR/>I don't buy the Fatah corruption bs. It is obvious that the withdrawal of Gaza under Fatahs leadership meant nothing to the majority of Palestinians. Peace is not on the agenda with them.<BR/>The cartoon protests pissed me off too, because I weigh that against the lack of protests against terror.<BR/>So maybe I've changed a tad.Baconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1147822605186539492006-05-16T19:36:00.000-04:002006-05-16T19:36:00.000-04:00Pimpette, you say quite a few things that make me ...Pimpette, you say quite a few things that make me cringe. I'm not expecting you to change. I'm not fond of apologists for Palestinians for example, but I make an exception when it comes to you.Baconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1147796466752666562006-05-16T12:21:00.000-04:002006-05-16T12:21:00.000-04:00It is simple here. If you don't want abuse from m...It is simple here. If you don't want abuse from me, don't argue with me because I'm usually right.Baconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1147793242242041072006-05-16T11:27:00.000-04:002006-05-16T11:27:00.000-04:00I'm with the comment pimpette,I've noticed a chang...I'm with the comment pimpette,<BR/><BR/>I've noticed a change too and I don't know how Steve was able to take the abuse for so long.The Atheologisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16094021492573529808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1147747320494253252006-05-15T22:42:00.000-04:002006-05-15T22:42:00.000-04:00Steve is a dishonest poster. I've answered all hi...Steve is a dishonest poster. I've answered all his questions, and he asks the same things over and over. I've refuted him and explained my position to him. I'm not the only one who thinks he is an imbecile. I'm usually pretty good at figuring out who is brain dead.Baconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.com