tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post114778843862977086..comments2023-10-20T05:48:35.458-04:00Comments on THE ATHEIST JEW: THE SIMPSONS AND FAMILY GUY TAKE ON CREATION/EVOLUTIONUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-85177327285460660452008-09-22T20:51:00.000-04:002008-09-22T20:51:00.000-04:00Hey Lugosi, this is a very old post and Youtube of...Hey Lugosi, this is a very old post and Youtube often takes these type of videos down.<BR/>Your link btw doesn't work for me because I am in Canada, and it can only be downloaded in the USA.Baconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-57447854950811007472008-09-22T19:49:00.000-04:002008-09-22T19:49:00.000-04:00Just to let you know: I found a "legal" version of...Just to let you know: I found a <A HREF="http://www.hulu.com/watch/19989/the-simpsons-homer-evolution" REL="nofollow">"legal" version</A> of the Homer evolution clip on Hulu that you can embed.<BR/>I'm still looking for a clip of the Family Guy's version of creation that I can embed, but no luck so far.Lugosihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17006371877257357939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-7010019716758998102008-01-28T05:48:00.000-05:002008-01-28T05:48:00.000-05:00FROM: Nikos Mastorakis:We visited last Sunday the ...FROM: Nikos Mastorakis:<BR/>We visited last Sunday the well known Attica Zoological Park<BR/>http://www.atticapark.com/main_en.htm<BR/>and visiting the department with Monkeys we started a discussion<BR/>about Darwin's Theory (Evolution). A good colleague from another Military University of Greece (Hellenic<BR/>Airforce Academy) had many objections about the Evolutionary Theory and sent me later a<BR/>very interesting email. It seems that the controversy still exists and there is no a common<BR/>point of Scientists yet. Many WSEAS Members are Biologists, however all of us have our personal<BR/>opinions maybe from our families and under the influence of our religions.<BR/>I have told in a previous WSEAS Conference on Evolutionary Computing<BR/>(Lisbon, 2005) that maybe God uses Evolutionary Computing like an Engineer and so<BR/>probably there is not a real contradiction between Creation and<BR/>Evolution. It seems that a common point could be an Intelligent Design.<BR/>As you can see our discussion cannot be only scientific, but it must<BR/>combines personal faith, experiences outside science (religion? miracle?<BR/>experience?). The WSEAS Community includes people from all the religions. Many of<BR/>them are religious persons. We want to have your opinions.<BR/>To this end, we created a Forum (i.e. Blog) with several videos that<BR/>we found from www.youtube.com <BR/><BR/> http://creation-and-evolution.blogspot.com/2008/01/creation-or-evolution.html<BR/><BR/>If you are interested to participate in this dialogue ("debate")<BR/>you can post your opinions, articles, etc<BR/>http://creation-and-evolution.blogspot.com/2008/01/creation-or-evolution.html<BR/><BR/>CLICK ON THE LINK:<BR/>Post a Comment<BR/>http://creation-and-evolution.blogspot.com/2008/01/creation-or-evolution.html<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>If your comments are good enough, you will be invited to publish them<BR/>in a more official WSEAS forum<BR/> (Book, Journal, Educational CD-ROM, etc....)<BR/><BR/>Any WSEAS Member or friend or any simple visitor of this page can tell<BR/>his opinion.<BR/><BR/>The best contributions (not anonymous please) from our Academic<BR/>Community will be invited to be Chapters in a Book or Papers in a<BR/>Journal os Magazine or Educational CD-ROM that will be published by<BR/>WSEAS. All the opinions towards to one or to the other direction are<BR/>encouraged.<BR/><BR/>Forward this link to your friends and students. We need both popular<BR/>and scientific contributions. The Best (criterion: the scientific<BR/>documentation only) will be published by WSEAS. All the contributions<BR/>must be in English.<BR/><BR/>CLICK ON THE LINK:<BR/>Post a Comment<BR/>http://creation-and-evolution.blogspot.com/2008/01/creation-or-evolution.html<BR/><BR/><BR/>NEW KEYNOTE SPEAKERS from University of Berkeley and Stanford University added in the WSEAS events.<BR/><BR/>b) SCR factors for 6 WSEAS Journals<BR/><BR/>c) New Deadline for the WSEAS Conferences in Harvard and MIT (see the web)<BR/><BR/>http://sfaka.blogspot.com/<BR/><BR/>http://wseas-cscc.blogspot.com/<BR/><BR/>http://wseas.blogspot.com/<BR/><BR/>http://wseas-mit.blogspot.com/<BR/><BR/>http://ethnika.blogspot.com<BR/><BR/>http://spoudastes.blogspot.com/<BR/><BR/>http://wseas2007.wordpress.com/<BR/><BR/>http://harvardconferences.blogspot.com/2008/01/dear-wseas-conference-organizers.html<BR/><BR/>http://wseas2007.wordpress.com/2008/01/<BR/><BR/>http://www.wseas.us/junk-management-waste-management-new-wseas-conference-in-Crete.htm<BR/><BR/>http://spoudastes.blogspot.com/2008/01/wseas-students-against-global-warming.html<BR/><BR/>http://groups.google.com/group/wseas/browse_thread/thread/4bfcbd1215b8de74<BR/><BR/>http://harvardconferences.blogspot.com/2008/01/dear-wseas-conference-organizers.html<BR/><BR/>http://harvardconferences.blogspot.com/2008/01/spammers-adding-text-from-books-to.html<BR/><BR/>http://groups.google.com/group/tellyouropinion<BR/><BR/>http://www.wseas.org/internetcancer.htm<BR/><BR/>http://creation-and-evolution.blogspot.com/Malaysiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08624896121055894233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-19579696269644437022007-08-24T10:29:00.000-04:002007-08-24T10:29:00.000-04:00Mary, your source only confirms what I know. Ther...Mary, your source only confirms what I know. There is evidence for belief in Jesus, but no evidence that Jesus himself existed.Baconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-3241842186726987802007-05-24T14:12:00.000-04:002007-05-24T14:12:00.000-04:00To all that seek the truth about science and creat...To all that seek the truth about science and creation, visit the following website: http://www.creationevidence.org/cemframes.html <BR/>The author and founder was hired to disprove creation. This site now exists to help everyone discover the truth. <BR/><BR/>On the matter of Jesus, unless you don't believe in HISTORY, you already know that He did LIVE, DIE and RESSERECT. <BR/>In case you need proof here is a great source of sources. Most sources are not Biblical. <BR/>http://www.nobeliefs.com/exist.htm <BR/><BR/>Of course, if you never seek the truth, you will never find it. If you would rather continue believing what you think because it is convenient, then perhaps you will never know if you believe the truth or a lie. I, however, KNOW that I believe in the TRUTH, because I seek it, and it is found.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15937155339336975414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-36541032210151010892007-03-27T21:55:00.000-04:002007-03-27T21:55:00.000-04:00Ender, you are replying to a very old post. You s...Ender, you are replying to a very old post. You should comment in a recent post for now on.<BR/>I know all about philosophy. I assume I'm real and not in a Matrix and I exist. I can't be 100% sure though.<BR/>Also, as far as God goes, you can call me whatever you want, but there is as much evidence that God exists as there is that the Tooth Fairy exists. I can't prove either doesn't exist, but I have no reason to believe in either, as both are almost certainly man made concepts.<BR/><BR/>What is illogical about evolution?Baconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-27935865791626907922007-03-27T21:08:00.000-04:002007-03-27T21:08:00.000-04:00It saddens me to see such quibbles arising from so...It saddens me to see such quibbles arising from something that should inspire the mind rather than enrage the heart.<BR/>I will make my point as brief as possible.<BR/><BR/>In my "OPINION"...<BR/><BR/>There is only one true fact," I know that I exist." If you can think it then it proves it's self to be true. this is the only fact many of us will ever "know". The religious people can claim their facts and the evolutionary people can claim theirs, but they can not ever know for certain. and even as i say this I must confess that this is my belief not a fact.<BR/><BR/>Many people claim evolution as a fact, often citing many researchers and scientist but unless you did the research your self you do not actually "know" anything for a "fact". you are believing what you've been told just like the religious people believe what they have been told. evolution is possible, neh, probable, but by no means a fact. the same goes for religion ( no matter whether it be Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Bahai, Hindu, Buddhism, Jain, Tao, Shinto, monotheistic, polytheistic, animism , belief in the flying spaghetti monster or anything else your heart desires), remember this is beliefe not fact, you are free to believe what you want but keep in mind two thousand, five thousand, ten thousand years ago people were free to believe what they wanted back when your beliefs hadn't even been considered then. some laugh at the beliefs of older religions and spiritualists and call them unfounded and barbaric, yet is it not possible that in two thousand, five thousand or ten thousand years from now your beliefs will be laughed at as barbaric too?<BR/><BR/>The sad reality is there are no facts, nothing is ever for certain. even empirical evidence cannot ever truly become fact. I believe in gravity but that doesn't make it any less of a theory. prove to me gravity works. PROVE to me its not magic ( i know it sounds farcical and if you continue down this road it can lead to flying spaghetti monsters and what not but lets assume that my point is clear). I can never truly know if the world around me or the people in it ever truly exist and neither can you. PROVE to me you are not dreaming, PROVE to me I'm not dreaming. PROVE to me we are not in the matrix.<BR/><BR/>Some evolutionary scientist and believers claim evolution to be a fact, but they have forgotten the default scientific stance is skepticism. Science and logic as they are rely on trying to prove every theory wrong, nothing can ever be proven correct, only held as a working theory until disproved.<BR/> <BR/>Do not jump all over me blasting what i have said, i neither believe evolution as truth nor disbelieve it, I think it is logical in some aspects and less so in others, my opinions are my own just as yours are your own. and I just like you have to find what meaning I can in the little pieces of "proof" and "evidence" we find in life.<BR/><BR/>Always question!<BR/>Be skeptical, but not ignorant!<BR/>look for questions not specifically just answers!<BR/><BR/>On the religious side, I neither believe nor disbelieve. I am not an atheist because the only requisite for atheism is the belief in the non existence of a deity, and that is not skepticism that is denial. YOU can't prove a deity exists, but I can't prove one doesn't. However, I am not an agnostic either, though you may wish to call me one. For agnosticism relies solely on the idea of being open to the idea of a deity. truth be told i am open to just about anything that occurs to ME as plausible or logical,but that does not solely fall on the shoulders of a deity, nor does it DEFINE my beliefs. There is no title for my specific beliefs nor would i ever wish there should be. titles are restrictive and my beliefs include flexibility and adaptation. Everyone has their own idea on where we came from but I know only one thing for sure, whether i was created or evolved i ended up with 1 mind, 1 mouth, 2 ears and 2 eyes, so i find it highly relevant to look and listen twice as often as i open my mouth and speak my mind. <BR/><BR/>Hear what others have to say,hear what others believe, Look for yourself then try to understand others beliefs before simply telling them they are wrong. Personal beliefs are just that, PERSONAL. no matter what they are you arrived upon them in a way unlike anyone else in time or space.<BR/><BR/>If you feel the need to label me because it makes it easier to simply lump me into a category based on what i believe, fine go ahead. Call me what I am. call me what any truly logical person can ever be sure of, call me the one thing I can ever surely believe in; call my a solipsist, but don't ever call me wrong.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12376610079130173356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1154042366078510142006-07-27T19:19:00.000-04:002006-07-27T19:19:00.000-04:00Anon, you have no clue. You don't even know what ...Anon, you have no clue. You don't even know what evolution theory is.Baconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1153709938798402092006-07-23T22:58:00.000-04:002006-07-23T22:58:00.000-04:00why are people still believing in evolution??? its...why are people still believing in evolution??? its all crap and has many many false statements, dont make any sense, and was proven wrong by a lot of people but its still taught in school!!! for one thing, evolutionists still cant explain how and why monkeys turned into man. how can a hairy small tailed tree swinging creature automatically turn into a gorrilla or whatever and then become a man, which has very few hair and can do what any other animals cant do. <BR/><BR/>can animals build a house? a real house? or make a phone? NO!! also, why do evolutionists say that fish turned into land creatures and then some learned to fly. what kind of bs is that?? automatically even if a fish tried to go to land for even millions of years, they would die. they wont breathe or move. <BR/><BR/>God created all of us, seperately. i know that some aspects of evolution is true, but the theory of evolution is crap. and why do some of u guys make fun of Muslims, the Qur'an, or Islam? if u guys diss the TRUTH, i cant help you when ur dead.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1148498138364335712006-05-24T15:15:00.000-04:002006-05-24T15:15:00.000-04:00I wonder if 'anonymous' (brave ID to use there) ha...I wonder if 'anonymous' (brave ID to use there) has read the pieces he/she has cut and pasted?Kaptain Koboldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17082772546044655044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1148091425151375202006-05-19T22:17:00.000-04:002006-05-19T22:17:00.000-04:00Thanks BEAJ! I'm headed there now...after all my s...Thanks BEAJ! I'm headed there now...after all my space critiques, I need a laugh ha ha ha...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13927097159499432650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1147915428759108132006-05-17T21:23:00.000-04:002006-05-17T21:23:00.000-04:00Lisa there is a full version of the Simpsons episo...Lisa there is a full version of the Simpsons episode <A HREF="http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/2006/05/the_simpsons_an.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>.<BR/><BR/>That is if you still need to laugh more.Baconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1147913312945475772006-05-17T20:48:00.000-04:002006-05-17T20:48:00.000-04:00Thanks for these; I needed a good laugh tonight. ...Thanks for these; I needed a good laugh tonight. I'd only seen the Sopranos one so far (btw, we have the SAME taste in tv shows)...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13927097159499432650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1147884449273853642006-05-17T12:47:00.000-04:002006-05-17T12:47:00.000-04:00Only jesus is his friend I'm afraid.My neice has a...Only jesus is his friend I'm afraid.<BR/><BR/>My neice has an imaginary friend too.Rev. BigDumbChimphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04375916659207181335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1147872206368224382006-05-17T09:23:00.000-04:002006-05-17T09:23:00.000-04:00a couple typos in there, sorry.a couple typos in there, sorry.Rev. BigDumbChimphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04375916659207181335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1147870973978272542006-05-17T09:02:00.000-04:002006-05-17T09:02:00.000-04:00Again, plenty of unsubstantiated spewing from Anon...Again, plenty of unsubstantiated spewing from Anon. If the vast majority of the US population identify themselves as Christians then where are all of the gambling, drinking, whoring, discriminating, failed buisness having, lying, tattooed, smoking, cancer stricken, late to work, stealing people coming from? All form the small minoirty of Atheists?<BR/><BR/>I think not. On average, Atheists on average are more highly educated that Christians. And more highly educated people are more likely to be members of all of the groups you listed above, minus the religiocity. But that shouldn't worry you because you obviously subscribe to the anti-education anti-science mindset.<BR/><BR/>Let he who is without Sin, cast the first stone. So all Christians don't have these "sins". Shame on you. Your god will be very angry.<BR/><BR/>I would be willing to bet that the rates of occurences of all the ills of society you so easily throw about are pretty evenly spread across the board with the higher educated groups of both atheists and those with faith being less afflicted.<BR/><BR/>I guess you ignored the recent study that showed that people who knew they were being prayed (preyed) for and were actually prayed for had more complications after a study doen on heart surgery patients? Humm?<BR/><BR/>Your fantasy world is just that fantasy. The vast majority of the people I know are with faith and I can sure as hell bet you that I don't come into work hungover, but I know that the guy that sits over there ----> does. And he went to church Sunday.Rev. BigDumbChimphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04375916659207181335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1147865017095664472006-05-17T07:23:00.000-04:002006-05-17T07:23:00.000-04:001. There is no evidence Jesus Christ ever lived e...1. There is no evidence Jesus Christ ever lived even as just a historical figure.<BR/>2. Fundamentalist Christians are either in denial or they are just plain stupid when it comes to science.<BR/>3. I would rather live a shorter life accepting the truth, than a long life surrounded by ignorance.<BR/>4. There aren't too many Atheists in jail. The place is full of believers.Baconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1147838993571801322006-05-17T00:09:00.000-04:002006-05-17T00:09:00.000-04:00It may be hard to believe, but dozens of studies h...It may be hard to believe, but dozens of studies have shown that regularly going to church and praying puts you in a group that has better health and a longer life-span.<BR/><BR/>Studies of more than 126,000 people have shown that those who regularly attend church are 29 per cent more likely to live longer than non-churchgoers. A University of Texas study found that church attenders live up to seven years longer than non-attenders, and the most regular attenders have the longest life expectancy.<BR/><BR/>A Duke University study of 2391 people who were at least 65 years old found that regular churchgoers who also prayed daily or studied the Bible daily were 40 per cent less likely to have high blood pressure than those who did not. Elderly churchgoers had better mental health and were less likely to have high degrees of a protein associated with age-related illness. (See our news archives for some news articles on these revealing findings.)<BR/><BR/>Why?<BR/>It is probably not hard to understand why. Churchgoers are much more restrained when it comes to many problem-causing areas of modern society. They don't usually have problems associated with drunkenness (for example, medical problems such as cirrhosis of the liver and shrinkage of the brain, or serious road injuries caused by driving while drunk), brawling, drugs, AIDS, gambling, cigarette-related cancers, and such, because these are lifestyles that most churchgoers try to avoid. <BR/><BR/>This does not mean that an atheist won't reach 100 or a Christian won't die as a teenager. But it does mean if you had to choose who would live longest between a born-again Christian and an atheist, other things being roughly equal you would win a lot more times if you always bet on the Christian. <BR/><BR/>Born-again Christians also have God's Holy Spirit dwelling in them to help them avoid the problem areas mentioned above. And because they know they can always turn to God in prayer during times of crisis, this may be the reason there is a lower incidence of stress-related problems in their lives.<BR/><BR/>Boost your career prospects<BR/>You also may have better career prospects if you are a Bible-believing Christian. <BR/><BR/>Most Christians are fairly conservative. They don't usually get involved in attention-seeking gimmicks or fads such as tattoos, body piercing, or fluoro hair. Even in this age of anti-discrimination and political correctness, most employers still lean toward conservative-looking applicants, particularly if it comes to a close choice. So the conservative Christian may have better than a 50-50 chance of getting the job in a close contest, if everything else is equal.<BR/><BR/>Many employers have found that the Christians they employ generally have an admirable work ethic. Also, the Christians usually don't smoke, drink, or gamble (at least not to a dangerous degree). This means the employer gains valuable work time from them while many other staff take smoke-breaks and have time off work because of hangovers and drink-related problems. <BR/><BR/>Christians are also much less likely to have gambling problems than people with no religious commitment, so stealing from the company to pay gambling debts is almost unknown from genuine born-again Christians. (See our article on job-hunting tips for Christians if you are a Christian looking for a new job.) <BR/><BR/>Attract customers to your business … and keep them!<BR/>If you run a business, there is a big advantage in being a Christian. Your honesty and commitment to the ethics of the Bible and the teachings of Jesus Christ will spur you on to always do the right thing by your customers, and even to give them more than they expect. This can attract and keep many more customers. <BR/><BR/>It will not protect you against business downturns, high rents, and many other business-related problems, but if you can build a strong customer base it will surely help! You will be praying for God's protection daily in your business anyway.<BR/><BR/>Gain greater trust and respect from co-workers and friends<BR/>In business and socially, Christians are greatly respected and trusted because of their high principles. Most of them rapidly gain the respect of friends, and the trust of their colleagues at work.<BR/><BR/>Any truly born-again Christian will tell you that being a Christian is wonderful. They would not renounce their Christianity for anything. This has been shown over and over in times of persecution, when Christians chose death rather than renouncing Jesus Christ and Christianity. <BR/><BR/>Being a Christian does not guarantee freedom from problems, but it does put you in all the groups mentioned above. And it gives you direct access to the great and wonderful God who created the universe and all life on earth: the God who can answer any prayer, and who offers you not just a longer life, but eternal life!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1147835443723873792006-05-16T23:10:00.000-04:002006-05-16T23:10:00.000-04:00Bloody hell. Those were some long posts from anony...Bloody hell. Those were some long posts from anonymous wingnut. I wondered if he was writing them himself, or just copy/pasting. Evidently, the latter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1147817110456728172006-05-16T18:05:00.000-04:002006-05-16T18:05:00.000-04:00Unless this dude is Spetner, he/she should at leas...Unless this dude is Spetner, he/she should at least give the author credit. <A HREF="http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/fitness/spetner.html" REL="nofollow"> Here</A> is the whole argument and why Spetner is wrong.Baconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1147814587673256772006-05-16T17:23:00.000-04:002006-05-16T17:23:00.000-04:00Stop using the ladder of progress fallacy moron!Stop using the ladder of progress fallacy moron!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1147814157740714192006-05-16T17:15:00.000-04:002006-05-16T17:15:00.000-04:00I shall establish an important and necessary guide...I shall establish an important and necessary guideline in this discussion of evolution. The word evolution is generally used in at least two different senses, and the distinction between them is important. On the one hand, the word evolution is used to denote the descent of all life from a putative single primitive source. It is the grand sweep of evolution that is supposed to have led from a simple beginning, something perhaps simpler than a bacterium, to all organisms living today, including humans. This descent is supposed to have occurred through purely natural means. Neo-Darwinian theory (NDT), which is the prevailing theory of evolution, teaches that this development occurred through random heritable variations in the organisms followed by natural selection. I shall denote the word evolution used in this sense as Evolution A. When evolution is discussed for popular consumption, it is most often Evolution A.<BR/><BR/>The second sense in which the word evolution is used is to denote any kind of change of a population. The change can sometimes occur in response to environmental pressure (artificial or natural selection), and sometimes it can just be random (genetic drift). I shall denote the word used in this second sense as Evolution B. Evolution B has been observed. Evolution A is an inference, but is not observable. The distinction between these two meanings of evolution parallels the distinction between macroevolution and microevolution, but the two pairs of terms are not identical. Evolution A is certainly what is called macroevolution, but what is called macroevolution is not identical with Evolution A. In any case, I prefer to use the A and B to avoid having to carry whatever baggage might go with the macro/micro distinction.<BR/><BR/>The distinction between these two meanings of evolution is often ignored by the defenders of Neo-Darwinian evolution. But the distinction is critical. The claim is made for Evolution A, but the proof offered is often limited to Evolution B. The implication is that the observation of Evolution B is a substantiation of Evolution A. But this is not so. Since Evolution A is not an observable, it can only be substantiated by circumstantial evidence. This circumstantial evidence is principally the fossil record, amino-acid-sequence comparisons, and comparative anatomy. Circumstantial evidence must be accompanied by a theory of how it relates to what is to be proved. NDT is generally accepted to be that theory. The strength of the circumstantial evidence for Evolution A can therefore be no better than the strength of NDT.<BR/><BR/>The important claim of Neo-Darwinism is that it can account for Evolution A. The public perceives this claim as the core of the controversy over evolution. This claim is also the source of the contention by evolutionists that life is the result of purely natural processes, which ensue from well-known natural laws. <BR/><BR/>Evolution A is the principle message of evolution, namely that all life descended with modification from a putative single primitive source. The mechanism offered for the process of modification is basically the Darwinian one of a long series of steps of random variation, each followed by natural selection. The variation is generally understood today to be random mutations in the DNA. That primitive source of life is assumed to be sufficiently simple that it could have arisen from nonliving material by chance. There is no theory today that can account for such an event, but I shall refrain from addressing that issue here. That is for another place and another time. What is relevant to this discussion is that the requirement that life arose spontaneously sets, at the very least, a stringent upper limit on the complexity and information content of the putative first organism that could reproduce itself, and thus serve as a vehicle from which to launch Darwinian evolution. The issue I address here is the alleged development of all life by the Neo-Darwinian process of random mutation and natural selection, starting from a sufficiently simple beginning.<BR/><BR/>Despite the insistence of evolutionists that evolution is a fact, it is really no more than an improbable story. No one has ever shown that the mechanism of NDT can result in Evolution A. Most evolutionists assume that long sequences of microevolutionary events can produce Evolution A, but no one has ever shown it to be so. (Those few evolutionists who hold that macroevolution is really different from microevolution have changed their story several times since they first came out with it, and their mechanism is so fuzzy that I have a hard time telling what it is.) <BR/><BR/>For Evolution A to work, long series of “beneficial” mutations must be possible, each building on the previous one and conferring a selective advantage on the organism. The process must be able to lead not only from one species to another, but to the entire advance of life from a simple beginning to the full complexity of present-day life. There must be a long series of possible mutations, each conferring a selective advantage on the organism so that natural selection can enable it to take over the population. Moreover, there must be not just one, but a great many such, series.<BR/><BR/>The chain must be continuous in that at each stage a change of a single base pair somewhere in the genome can lead to a more adaptive organism in some environmental context. The concept of the adaptive landscape is useful here. This concept was first introduced by Sewall Wright[1], but now nucleotide sequences of the mean population genome have taken the place of Wright’s gene combinations. There are a great many adaptive hills of various heights spread over the genomic landscape. NDT then says that it should be possible to continue to climb an “adaptive” hill to a large global maximum (or near-maximum), one base change at a time, without getting hung up on a small local maximum. No one has ever shown this to be possible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1147813201362842972006-05-16T17:00:00.000-04:002006-05-16T17:00:00.000-04:00The Straw-men floweth freely. Embrace them.Anon is...The Straw-men floweth freely. Embrace them.<BR/><BR/>Anon is trying the typical lying and obsfucation of truth that is the halmark of a good creationist. It is no use trying to reason with it. It is so far from being able to recognize truth and reason that it will be useless.<BR/><BR/>I bet your leaders are proud Anon.Rev. BigDumbChimphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04375916659207181335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1147810535599362922006-05-16T16:15:00.000-04:002006-05-16T16:15:00.000-04:00Creation isn't an educated guess, it is a factless...Creation isn't an educated guess, it is a factless hope.<BR/><BR/>You have to throw all science out the door to not believe in evolution. And by the content of your posts, you have absolutely no idea about much of what you are spewing at length about.Baconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1147810462172807772006-05-16T16:14:00.000-04:002006-05-16T16:14:00.000-04:00Random mutation and natural selection has been obs...Random mutation and natural selection has been observed.<BR/><BR/>Fossils show gradual decent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com