tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post114849264200935883..comments2023-10-20T05:48:35.458-04:00Comments on THE ATHEIST JEW: Israel Criticisers Have A Look:The Pipeline of HatredUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1148593133711677112006-05-25T17:38:00.000-04:002006-05-25T17:38:00.000-04:00Pimpette, I'm not going to battle with you on ever...Pimpette, I'm not going to battle with you on every one of your spins. It is exhausting, and even though I KNOW I'm right, it is pointless to keep on debating you.<BR/><BR/>Cat, you are really an Agnostic, you just don't know it yet.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Regarding your last comment:<BR/>I have NO idea what you are talking aboutBaconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1148580427720737542006-05-25T14:07:00.000-04:002006-05-25T14:07:00.000-04:00"Maybe with respect to Palestine, but not in any b..."Maybe with respect to Palestine, but not in any broader sense. No leftist worth his salt would think highly of theocratic dictators and oppressors of women."<BR/><BR/>Amen to that, Jewish Atheist! For example, prior to 9/11, "leftists" were the only ones decrying the Taliban and its brutal treatment of women. Every "rightist" I mentioned it to back then responded with something like, "Well, what can we do? We're not the world's police force." After 9/11, of course, that tune changed completely.Catherinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12925617415086523147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1148580016656026032006-05-25T14:00:00.000-04:002006-05-25T14:00:00.000-04:00You don't have to be an atheist or agnostic to fin...You don't have to be an atheist or agnostic to find those "God quotes" hilarious. I was laughing my ass off. :)Catherinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12925617415086523147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1148572958901780352006-05-25T12:02:00.000-04:002006-05-25T12:02:00.000-04:00Pimpette, J cut and pasted from a Christian site. ...Pimpette, J cut and pasted from a <A HREF="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&rls=GGGL%2CGGGL%3A2005-09%2CGGGL%3Aen&q=the+choice+He+placed+one+scoop+of+clay+upon+another+until+a+form+lay+lifeless+on&btnG=Search" REL="nofollow">Christian site</A>. It has nothing to do with my blog, it is just a case of Christians spreading their word.<BR/><BR/>It is no different than getting a spam email for penis enlargements.Baconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1148562886526159552006-05-25T09:14:00.000-04:002006-05-25T09:14:00.000-04:00Maybe with respect to Palestine, but not in any br...<I>Maybe with respect to Palestine, but not in any broader sense. No leftist worth his salt would think highly of theocratic dictators and oppressors of women.</I><BR/><BR/>Jewish Atheist: Jimmy Carter anyone?<BR/><BR/>Bacon: Thanks for sending Bernarda my way. You owe me a can of raid.The Jewish Freakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00959225860182589944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1148525726196024602006-05-24T22:55:00.000-04:002006-05-24T22:55:00.000-04:00J, you've been had. Your life is based on myths a...J, you've been had. Your life is based on myths and lies. Quit spamming my board with nonsense.Baconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1148524915141344032006-05-24T22:41:00.000-04:002006-05-24T22:41:00.000-04:00THE CHOICEHe placed one scoop of clay upon another...THE CHOICE<BR/><BR/>He placed one scoop of clay upon another until a form lay lifeless on<BR/>the ground.<BR/><BR/>All of the Garden's inhabitants paused to witness the event. Hawks<BR/>hovered. Giraffes stretched. Trees bowed. Butterflies paused on<BR/>petals and watched.<BR/><BR/>"You will love me, nature," God said. "I made you that way. You<BR/>will obey me, universe. For you were designed to do so. You will<BR/>reflect my glory, skies, for that is how you were created. But this<BR/>one will be like me. This one will be able to choose."<BR/><BR/>All were silent as the Creator reached into himself and removed<BR/>something yet unseen. A seed. "It's called 'choice.' The seed of<BR/>choice."<BR/><BR/>Creation stood in silence and gazed upon the lifeless form.<BR/><BR/>An angel spoke, "But what if he..."<BR/><BR/>"What if he chooses not to love?" the Creator finished. "Come, I<BR/>will show you." Unbound by today, God and the angel walked into the<BR/>realm of tomorrow. "There, see the fruit of the seed of choice, both<BR/>the sweet and the bitter."<BR/><BR/>The angel gasped at what he saw. Spontaneous love. Voluntary<BR/>devotion. Chosen tenderness. Never had he seen anything like these.<BR/>He felt the love of the Adams. He heard the joy of Eve and her<BR/>daughters.<BR/><BR/>He saw the food and the burdens shared. He absorbed the kindness and<BR/>marveled at the warmth.<BR/><BR/>"Heaven has never seen such beauty, my Lord. Truly, this is your<BR/>greatest creation."<BR/><BR/>"Ah, but you've only seen the sweet. Now witness the bitter." A<BR/>stench enveloped the pair. The angel turned in horror and<BR/>proclaimed,<BR/><BR/>"What is it?"<BR/><BR/>The Creator spoke only one word: "Selfishness."<BR/><BR/>The angel stood speechless as they passed through centuries of<BR/>repugnance. Never had he seen such filth. Rotten hearts. Ruptured<BR/>promises. Forgotten loyalties. Children of the creation wandering<BR/>blindly in lonely labyrinths.<BR/><BR/>"This is the result of choice? the angel asked.<BR/><BR/>"Yes."<BR/><BR/>"They will forget you?"<BR/><BR/>"Yes."<BR/><BR/>"They will reject you?"<BR/><BR/>"Yes."<BR/><BR/>They will never come back?<BR/><BR/>"Some will. Most won't."<BR/><BR/>"What will it take to make them listen?"<BR/><BR/>The Creator walked on in time, further and further into the future,<BR/>until he stood by a tree. A tree that would be fashioned into a<BR/>cradle. Even then he could smell the hay that would surround him.<BR/><BR/>With another step into the future, he paused before another tree. It<BR/>stood alone, a stubborn ruler on a bald hill. The trunk was thick,<BR/>and the wood was strong. Soon it would be cut. Soon it would be<BR/>trimmed. Soon it would be mounted on the stony brow of another hill.<BR/>And soon he would be hung on it.<BR/><BR/>He felt the wood rub against a back he did not yet wear.<BR/><BR/>"Will you go down there?" the angel asked.<BR/><BR/>"I will."<BR/><BR/>"Is there no other way?"<BR/><BR/>"There is not."<BR/><BR/>"Wouldn't it be easier to not plant the seed? Wouldn't it be easier<BR/>to not give the choice?"<BR/><BR/>"It would," the Creator spoke slowly. "But to remove the choice is<BR/>to remove the love."<BR/><BR/>He look around the hill and foresaw a scene. Three figures hung on<BR/>three crosses. Arms spread. Heads fallen forward. They moaned with<BR/>the wind. Men clad in soldier's garb sat on the ground near the<BR/>trio. They played games in the dirt and laughed.<BR/><BR/>Men clad in religion stood off to one side. They smiled. Arrogant,<BR/>cocky. They had protected God, they thought by killing this false one.<BR/><BR/>Women clad in sorrow huddled at the foot of the hill. Speechless.<BR/>Faces tear streaked. Eyes downward. One put her arm around another<BR/>and tried to lead her away. She wouldn't leave. "I will stay," she<BR/>said softly, "I will stay."<BR/><BR/>All heaven stood to fight. All nature rose to rescue. All eternity<BR/>poised to protect. But the Creator gave no command.<BR/><BR/>"It must be done...," he said, and withdrew.<BR/><BR/>But as he stepped in time, he heard the cry that he would someday<BR/>scream: "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" He wrenched at<BR/>tomorrow's agony.<BR/><BR/>The angel spoke again. "It would be less painful........"<BR/><BR/>The Creator interrupted softly. "But it wouldn't be love."<BR/><BR/>They stepped into the Garden again. The Maker looked earnestly at<BR/>the clay creation. A monsoon of love swelled up within him. He had<BR/>died for the creation before he had made him. God's form bent over<BR/>the sculptured face and breathed. Dust stirred on the lips of the<BR/>new one. The chest rose, cracking the red mud. The cheeks<BR/>fleshened. A finger moved. And an eye opened.<BR/><BR/>But more incredible than the moving of the flesh was the stirring of<BR/>the spirit. Those who could see the unseen gasped. Perhaps it was<BR/>the wind that said it first. Perhaps what the star saw that moment<BR/>is what has made it blink ever since. Maybe it was left to an angel<BR/>to whisper it:<BR/><BR/>"It looks like ... it appears to so much like ... it is him!"<BR/><BR/>The angel wasn't speaking of the face, the features, or the body.<BR/>He was looking inside - at the soul.<BR/><BR/>"It's eternal!" gasped another.<BR/><BR/>Within the man, God has placed a divine seed. A seed of his self (A<BR/>seed of choice). The God of might had created earth's mightiest...<BR/>And the One who had chosen to love had created one who could love in<BR/>return.<BR/><BR/>Now it's our choice.<BR/><BR/><BR/><>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <><Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1148505772784045132006-05-24T17:22:00.000-04:002006-05-24T17:22:00.000-04:00GLO, you might want to add this button to your sid...GLO, you might want to add this <A HREF="http://www.nerra.com/broadsword/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/apesandpigs-small.jpg" REL="nofollow">button</A> to your sidebar.Baconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1148502160037001652006-05-24T16:22:00.000-04:002006-05-24T16:22:00.000-04:00I don't get it, ABK. But, as I am a Jew, it makes...I don't get it, ABK. But, as I am a Jew, it makes sense that I sound like one. :-)Jewish Atheisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04616617537150446818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1148502018113934442006-05-24T16:20:00.000-04:002006-05-24T16:20:00.000-04:00JA - You certainly sound like a Jew. This isn't a ...JA - You certainly sound like a Jew. This isn't a Gemara <I>shiur</I>, you know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1148501494396974972006-05-24T16:11:00.000-04:002006-05-24T16:11:00.000-04:00JA, you know I'm left on many issues. I think the...JA, you know I'm left on many issues. I think the left is gullible to hard luck stories, and aren't aware that some of these stories lead to anti-semitism. I think the anti-semites on the right do so through nurture and ignorance.<BR/><BR/>OK, I'm done generalizing now:)Baconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1148500711091910832006-05-24T15:58:00.000-04:002006-05-24T15:58:00.000-04:00BEAJ:The point about the left here is many are fal...BEAJ:<BR/><BR/><I>The point about the left here is many are falling for Arab propoganda. </I><BR/><BR/>Maybe with respect to Palestine, but not in any broader sense. No leftist worth his salt would think highly of theocratic dictators and oppressors of women.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Apikoros baal korcho:<BR/><BR/><I>Right wingers are less often swayed by propaganda, whereas the political Left seems to be more ready to swallow it hook, line and sinker.</I><BR/><BR/>????<BR/><BR/>You cannot be serious. Fox news, Hannity, Rush, etc. are much bigger than any propagandists on the left. A study showed that Fox news viewers were more misinformed -- and always in a way to benefit the administration's POV -- than people who got their news elsewhere.Jewish Atheisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04616617537150446818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1148498708725444062006-05-24T15:25:00.000-04:002006-05-24T15:25:00.000-04:00I agree with BEAJ's analysis. Right wingers are le...I agree with BEAJ's analysis. Right wingers are less often swayed by propaganda, whereas the political Left seems to be more ready to swallow it hook, line and sinker. Anti-semitism exists across the political spectrum, however; there's no safe haven from it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1148498304673245282006-05-24T15:18:00.000-04:002006-05-24T15:18:00.000-04:00The point about the left here is many are falling ...The point about the left here is many are falling for Arab propoganda. I agree, anti-semitism isn't a lefty or righty disease. The righties though, are either Jew haters or they aren't, the lefties are prone to being conned into it.Baconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10199920.post-1148497863407818482006-05-24T15:11:00.000-04:002006-05-24T15:11:00.000-04:00Those who think they know it all about Israel and ...<I>Those who think they know it all about Israel and what Israel is up against, please check the out: The New Anti-Semitism: The Pipeline of Hatred</I><BR/><BR/>Eh. It's not exactly news that Muslim countries are fanatically, completely over-the-top anti-semitic. The purported links to "leftist" groups are exaggerated. It's true that a few people on the left are anti-semitic, but I'm sure they don't number nearly as many as the anti-semites on the Christian Right, for example. And conflating the anti-globalization movement with anti-semitism is downright bizarre.Jewish Atheisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04616617537150446818noreply@blogger.com