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September 29, 2006
Joel Johannesen: What an insecure little baby
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I got banned by one of the most insecure blogs and forums on the internet. It is really a relgious right forum hiding under the guise of a political one. Obviously Proud to be Canadian does not believe in separation of church and state and especially they do not believe in free speech.
I compare the cronies on Proud to be Canadian to be as intellectually deficient as Robert McClelland's group of retards on MyBlahg. Even though I am disgusted in the NDP's politics, they at least weren't as insecure as Joel to ban me from their site.
I like Harper's stance on the War Against Terror, and I am also pro-business. I've voted PC all my life, but imbeciles in self denial at Proud To Be Canadian, make me not so proud to be Canadian. And they represent a good portion of the PC voting base. Hopefully, not the leadership. It just proves to me that the PC's are the lesser of 3 evils in Canada. The Liberals got us potential terror cells, and they have a few MP's that support Hamas.
My confrontation on the wimp board started innocently enough. I went to check out the headlines of blogs at Blogging Tories, and I came across “Charter rights”: Lesbian demands that God change that whole “life” thing ".
Now, I'm a firm believer that homosexuality happens mainly do to nature. Homosexuals should have equal rights. They are no less human or sick than heterosexuals.
I commented: What does this have to do with God? What exactly are God’s words regarding homosexuality and family? Prove God said them.
I accept homosexuality because there is tremendous evidence that it is more nature than nurture. It is not a sickness, and homosexuals do not choose to be homosexuals (at least in the overwhelming majority of cases).
Keep religion in the household and your place of worship (that is where it belongs).
Keep it out of the classroom and courts.
Those comments were attacked by a few bloggers. I was then deemed to be the enemy. I was called a bigot towards God and Christianity by Christians who themselves are openly bigoted against homosexuals and Atheists.
But lets get back to the baby Joel. He is supreme moderator at this blog, this gives his weak personna a boost, and makes him feel powerful. But as I will prove he is nothing but a weak kneed trembling little tot. He did not engage in any debate, but instead proceded to flame me. I felt I was dealing with a 15 year old.
He stated this:
Atheist Jew
Apart from the fact that you appear to be way, way over your head here, this isn’t an atheist religion web site, as you well know. In fact I think you seek out, target, and troll in these kinds of waters on purpose, evangelizing your religion, or attempting to do so. Your moniker is an all-too-obvious clue but your jejune little quips and bigoted smears are, well, stupid beyond the scope of what we tolerate here, what with this site being replete with employed grownups, and all.
You’ve more than made your point, such as it is.
Unfortunately for you, this is not an appropriate platform to advance your faith in the atheism religion. That’s just stupifyingly obvious.
If your own little blog site is failing because so many people follow the rich word of God, and you can’t seem to get folks to join your atheist religion, then I’m sorry about that, but this site isn’t going to be your go-to site to try to get converts and visitors to your atheist religion web site and church. It’s really rather fruitless in addition to being just annoying. Kind of like when communists come in here and start preaching that, or supporters of CBC promote that.
As a more general matter, I find that these repeated public displays of abject bigotry and intolerance from those who, like “Atheist Jew”, try to portray themselves as pseudo-intellectual “enlightened, tolerant ones”—are becoming hideous, actually, among the intelligent set, and are clearly serving our own interests rather than theirs. That’s a “backlash” I guess, and I suppose that’s good for us, so I’m glad “Atheist Jew” dropped by to help confirm that finding.
But being the charitable guy that I am, move on now, “Atheist Jew”, because self-respect and progress demands it.
And this:
Atheist Jew, I’ve already warned you. This is not your place to gratuitously spew your atheism. You’ve made your many uncalled for comments. That’s enough. Sit back now and take your lumps.
Write up a nice blog entry on your own blog espousing the strong faith you have in your atheism religion, if your site is so effective what with that massive 300 hits per day (I have a dormant site that gets more than 300 hits per day). And complain bitterly about how I’m censoring you here. I don’t care. Write the Queen to complain. Write the Pope.
You will not use this site as a platform to attempt to advance your anti-Christian religion, at my expense, particularly because you do so by way of insult, smears, and bigotry of the highest order. And it’s the wrong place, the wrong blog entry, and so much more.
But here’s my Christian-like olive branch:
If you can see fit to do so without acting like an insolent child who presumes to be addressing utterly unlearned morons and freaks and psychotics, you can start a topic in the discussion forums, as you probably should have done to start with. However, should you slip even an iota into the bigotry and insulting, childish, amateurish, disrespectful manner such as that which you’ve used here, you will be banned for life, and all traces of your existence here will be erased. And then you can write the Queen about that too.
Thanks.
So I accepted his offer and posted this under a brand new topic:
I’m The Atheist Jew, aka BEAJ, aka AJ. A Jew can be a Jew by religion and/or ethnicity(born to a Jewish mother). Hitler didn’t ask if the Jews he murdered believed or not, or to what extent. Neither would many Muslims today, especially radical ones.
My Atheism is usually misunderstood. I started off as a secular believer in God, turned Agnostic, and now I’m Atheist. This is due to my understanding that there is absolutely no proof outside of the bibles that God exists or has existed. Science will someday explain everything, and just because there are holes right now, it doesn’t mean God fills in the blanks. At least not to me.
I have friends who are Christian Fundamentalists. They want to take my wife to church and save her. My wife is pretty much agnostic, though she grew up secular Christian.
No, I can’t prove God doesn’t exist, but I can’t prove 50 Gods don’t exist, or even that my dog Daisy isn’t God.
I have voted PC for as long as I can remember. I am pro business. I am pro war on terror. I have a dislike for Moonbats.
I have no problem with Christmas, it is a great time to see families. I have no problem with cards that say Merry Christmas.
I do not believe Jesus existed as a historical figure, or that the Exodus happened. And I know the flood story has absolutely no science behind it.
I came to I Am Proud To Be Canadian blog because I saw a post having to do with gays. I believe strongly that the majority of gays are gay by nature not nurture. I also have no doubts about evolution.
I wanted to start a debate here about whether anyone here believes in evolution. Thank you.
Baby Joel immediately flamed me, and did not engage in debate whatsoever, and continued to flame me. I asked him to debate me and stop insulting me. His retarded answer was "No. I don’t have time to debate you."...check for yourself. The other fools on the board confuse evolution with religion. Yes, there are retards who walk amongst us. And many hang out at Proud to Be Canadian.
I told my wife about it just now, she shook her head and said "so much for free speech," and she agreed with me that the reason they banned me is that deep down Fundamentalist Christians know they have nothing, and are quite insecure and that is why they hang on to absurdities such as a young earth and anti-evolution.
Joel should be ashamed of himself, and so should Progressive Conservatives who are represented by idiots like Joel. He is a coward, a wimp and a rhetorical assmonkey. I was being civil on the board, but the insecurity and reading comprehension of Joel and his flock is mind numbing.
Read the forum comments, before the pussy takes them down. Especially his last comment. He is more retarded than Ann Coulter, because he probably isn't making much money with his inane drivel and she is.
Oh, one more thing, check their Islamic rules for their website:
If you're a LIBERAL, please remember that:
** You are a guest at ProudToBeCanadian ("PTBC"); and it is a
privately-owned facility, and yes, privately-owned things are still allowed
in this country;
** You are granted a privilege by us as the owners of this site to post
comments. You do not have "a right" to make comments at PTBC. Please be
aware of the difference. You are not automatically "entitled" to anything
at PTBC;
** We're under no obligation to provide you with a platform, at our expense,
to rant on and on about liberalism, the "Canadian value" of abortion,
smoking pot, socialism, or any other liberal-left ideal. Nor are we
obligated to even allow you to post any of your comments at all whatsoever,
and we may delete them if they break our very reasonable rules, and we are
under no obligation to consult with you first;
** And most of all remember that character assassination attempts or even
personal insults against the site owner, blogger(s), columnists, or any
commenter --are simply not well tolerated. Nor are rude, insulting,
bigoted cliché remarks made in blanket form against the group at PTBC or
any portion of them, nor conservatives generally for that matter. If you
type "Nazi" or "heil" or "Hitler" or "fascist", you will be banned for life
simply on the basis that you're a moron. If you type "homophobe", you may
be banned for life or just a for a while.
** You will have to tread lightly, respectfully, and remember that you're
among people who are committed conservatives (despite the teaching at
schools and from the liberal media which permeates our lives), you're not
necessarily among friends, and nobody will reach out to you for a group hug.
And if you do remember that, you'll get along just fine and last forever at
PTBC.
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What exactly is it about Islam they don't like, they seem pretty Islamic to me.
September 28, 2006
Fundies, Leave The Gays Alone
I really get bothered when religious Fundies whine about gay marriages and gay rights. Proud to Be A Canadian is all up in arms over the definition of family. Note to the Radical Right, we live in 2006 not the 1950's, when society norms were dictated by the big screen (where most of the actors in the 50's were gays pretending to be straight). Mad Zionist and his religious cronies speak think they are speaking for God. It bugs me when Jews who have been persecuted for years, turn around and persecute gays.
I was born a heterosexual, almost every gay person on this planet today wasn't. Get over it. With all the stigmas attached, why would someone choose to be gay? They can't help it, just like I can't help enjoying drooling at a beautiful woman.
I hate the God hates or at least dislikes gays argument. First off, prove there is a God. Secondly, prove that God hates or dislikes gays.
I also don't like the argument that homosexuality is wrong because it doesn't lead to procreation. I'm married to an older woman. We have no kids, and it is too late now. I'm fine with that. When two 70 year olds get married, it is fine with the Religious Right too, even though procreation is out of the question.
There is overwhelming evidence that homosexuality is natural. To be natural, it doesn't have to be a fifty fifty thing. Left handers are natural, but only make up around 10% of the population. There is no evidence that homosexuality is mainly due to nurture. None. Please show me a scientific study to back it up or STFU.
Here is some evidence that shows that homosexuality can be caused during fetal development:
Here is a pretty good lecture on homosexuality and morality:
I have two issues with this that I disagree with. How does he specifically define morality? Morality according to who? And secondly, he attacks the statement that "it isn't natural, animals don't do it" totally erroneously. Homosexuality is rampant in the animal kingdom, especially among the more developed animals. Of course, bonobos don't have the intellectual superiority it takes to read a bible and to know that God hates them and declares their behavior to be unnatural.
Here is a pretty interesting and controversial theory on homosexual sex and evolution. Homosexuality has been documented in over 450 different vertabrate species (why would God create such a travesty;)).
Evolution isn't just about mating and adapting, it is about surviving (not being food and finding food and shelter). In order for a species to keep going, there must be enough youngens who make it to the next generation. That is why so many social animals exist. There is a safety in numbers. Sexual bonding creates less tensions in many social animals, the bond also causes animals to be protective of one another. The vast majority of social insects don't exist to mate. And in the higher animal kingdom, there seems to be evolutionary benefits in homosexual behavior (albeit, most bi-sexual behavior).
Lets face it, if every animal on this planet successfully mated, and every sperm was sacred, we would have ran out of natural resources a long long time ago.
As far as family goes. Check out these dolphins:
Does God know what is going on in his oceans? I know, at least they aren't asking for equal rights or putting on a gay parade in the Dead Sea.....
One more thing, the idea of kids growing up in gay homes is frowned upon by many. I'm open to research. Right now, there just isn't enough. If it turns out that a statistically larger proportion of these kids turn out to be molested by one of the parents or "friends" of the parents, or if the kids turn into welfare dependants or criminals (like it is with single parent homes where the struggling mom is a heterosexual).....then I'd be against it.
I was born a heterosexual, almost every gay person on this planet today wasn't. Get over it. With all the stigmas attached, why would someone choose to be gay? They can't help it, just like I can't help enjoying drooling at a beautiful woman.
I hate the God hates or at least dislikes gays argument. First off, prove there is a God. Secondly, prove that God hates or dislikes gays.
I also don't like the argument that homosexuality is wrong because it doesn't lead to procreation. I'm married to an older woman. We have no kids, and it is too late now. I'm fine with that. When two 70 year olds get married, it is fine with the Religious Right too, even though procreation is out of the question.
There is overwhelming evidence that homosexuality is natural. To be natural, it doesn't have to be a fifty fifty thing. Left handers are natural, but only make up around 10% of the population. There is no evidence that homosexuality is mainly due to nurture. None. Please show me a scientific study to back it up or STFU.
Here is some evidence that shows that homosexuality can be caused during fetal development:
Here is a pretty good lecture on homosexuality and morality:
I have two issues with this that I disagree with. How does he specifically define morality? Morality according to who? And secondly, he attacks the statement that "it isn't natural, animals don't do it" totally erroneously. Homosexuality is rampant in the animal kingdom, especially among the more developed animals. Of course, bonobos don't have the intellectual superiority it takes to read a bible and to know that God hates them and declares their behavior to be unnatural.
Here is a pretty interesting and controversial theory on homosexual sex and evolution. Homosexuality has been documented in over 450 different vertabrate species (why would God create such a travesty;)).
Evolution isn't just about mating and adapting, it is about surviving (not being food and finding food and shelter). In order for a species to keep going, there must be enough youngens who make it to the next generation. That is why so many social animals exist. There is a safety in numbers. Sexual bonding creates less tensions in many social animals, the bond also causes animals to be protective of one another. The vast majority of social insects don't exist to mate. And in the higher animal kingdom, there seems to be evolutionary benefits in homosexual behavior (albeit, most bi-sexual behavior).
Lets face it, if every animal on this planet successfully mated, and every sperm was sacred, we would have ran out of natural resources a long long time ago.
As far as family goes. Check out these dolphins:
Does God know what is going on in his oceans? I know, at least they aren't asking for equal rights or putting on a gay parade in the Dead Sea.....
One more thing, the idea of kids growing up in gay homes is frowned upon by many. I'm open to research. Right now, there just isn't enough. If it turns out that a statistically larger proportion of these kids turn out to be molested by one of the parents or "friends" of the parents, or if the kids turn into welfare dependants or criminals (like it is with single parent homes where the struggling mom is a heterosexual).....then I'd be against it.
September 27, 2006
Finally, an Atheist blogroll
Ever since I got rejected from the Blasphemy webring I have contemplated starting an Atheist blogroll. I'm a member of many blogrolls already, but there was a definite void in cyberspace. I gave up on the idea of starting one because it finally became apparent to me that I am far too lazy. But luckily, Mojoey at Deep Thoughts has shown some go-getter characteristics and started one.
For those Godless bloggers who don't about it yet, go here and sign up.
I'm thinking of purging Atheist blogs off my main blogroll to avoid being redundant. But I might be too lazy to do that.
September 25, 2006
More Evolution Stories In The News
More news to make the Fundies cringe.
This news about male crickets evolving flat wings from curved wings over just a few generations makes perfect sense to me. But to those who don't buy into evolution, this is just the devil's work. I'm curious what will happen to these crickets over time though, if the original curved wing music makers go totally extinct. And what will happen to the parasitic fly. This is why most species that have ever graced the earth have gone extinct.
The early bird may get the worm, but the first birds had four wings and used to glide.
'Scientists don’t know when in their evolutionary history birds switched from a "four winged" design to a two-wing one, but it's thought that hindlimb wings were sacrificed in order to free up legs for other functions, such as running, swimming and catching prey.'
Oh no. "Scientists don't know when," and "it's thought" are in the above quote. The first means that scientists don't know therefore God exists.
Scientists don't know YET, but they eventually will.
And finally, miniature animal remains found in Mediterranean islands have changed the theory as to why miniaturization takes place. It used to be thought that animals got smaller on Islands solely because of limited resources. Now research has led scientists to understand that lack of predators is another main cause that herbivores evolve to be smaller on Islands. If they don't need their size to survive, they will get smaller. Smaller animals tend to have more babies. Carnivores will get smaller if there is either a lack of prey or if the abundance of prey is smaller.
"Carnivores and herbivores don't respond to the same evolutionary pressures as far as their body sizes are concerned," Dr Shai Meiri added in an interview.
"Carnivores are affected by food availability and prey size, whereas herbivores are affected by the presence of other herbivores and also of predators."
In my world the above 3 stories make perfect sense. Do they make sense in your world?
Here is a Youtube Video I found today about vestigial organs. Kind of funny, and the points are valid.
I found the above video when I saw the comments made on the following video by this then 18 year old girl. No, I'm not a dirty middle aged old man, I was doing a Youtube search on "evolution" and watched it. Her video is sort of cry for help, and she makes very relative points about Fundamentalist Christians and proof. She does make statements that are wrong when it comes to "who knows?" and "there is no proof either way." This is where I disagree with the author of the first video who states "I don't consider myself an Atheist because I, like you, have conviction that we'll never have hard-core proof one way or the other."
That is only true if biology and fossil records can never be considered hardcore proof. But there will never be proof that God doesn't exist, because you can't prove a negative. Watch the video.
"The debate won't be solved because there's always gonna be religion and there's always gonna be science." Interesting. Hopefully she won't fall into the hands of a cultist. She seems to be on the right track.
This news about male crickets evolving flat wings from curved wings over just a few generations makes perfect sense to me. But to those who don't buy into evolution, this is just the devil's work. I'm curious what will happen to these crickets over time though, if the original curved wing music makers go totally extinct. And what will happen to the parasitic fly. This is why most species that have ever graced the earth have gone extinct.
The early bird may get the worm, but the first birds had four wings and used to glide.
'Scientists don’t know when in their evolutionary history birds switched from a "four winged" design to a two-wing one, but it's thought that hindlimb wings were sacrificed in order to free up legs for other functions, such as running, swimming and catching prey.'
Oh no. "Scientists don't know when," and "it's thought" are in the above quote. The first means that scientists don't know therefore God exists.
Scientists don't know YET, but they eventually will.
And finally, miniature animal remains found in Mediterranean islands have changed the theory as to why miniaturization takes place. It used to be thought that animals got smaller on Islands solely because of limited resources. Now research has led scientists to understand that lack of predators is another main cause that herbivores evolve to be smaller on Islands. If they don't need their size to survive, they will get smaller. Smaller animals tend to have more babies. Carnivores will get smaller if there is either a lack of prey or if the abundance of prey is smaller.
"Carnivores and herbivores don't respond to the same evolutionary pressures as far as their body sizes are concerned," Dr Shai Meiri added in an interview.
"Carnivores are affected by food availability and prey size, whereas herbivores are affected by the presence of other herbivores and also of predators."
In my world the above 3 stories make perfect sense. Do they make sense in your world?
Here is a Youtube Video I found today about vestigial organs. Kind of funny, and the points are valid.
I found the above video when I saw the comments made on the following video by this then 18 year old girl. No, I'm not a dirty middle aged old man, I was doing a Youtube search on "evolution" and watched it. Her video is sort of cry for help, and she makes very relative points about Fundamentalist Christians and proof. She does make statements that are wrong when it comes to "who knows?" and "there is no proof either way." This is where I disagree with the author of the first video who states "I don't consider myself an Atheist because I, like you, have conviction that we'll never have hard-core proof one way or the other."
That is only true if biology and fossil records can never be considered hardcore proof. But there will never be proof that God doesn't exist, because you can't prove a negative. Watch the video.
"The debate won't be solved because there's always gonna be religion and there's always gonna be science." Interesting. Hopefully she won't fall into the hands of a cultist. She seems to be on the right track.
September 23, 2006
I've Been Tagged Again
Here it goes again. I was tagged by Memoirs of a Gouda to do a movie meme. As you will tell by my answers, my days of going to the movies are in the past, so is my need to see current movies. I equate it to music. I’m stuck in the 70’s and 80’s.
1. The last movie you saw in a theatre, and current-release movie you still want to see.
This is really embarrassing, but I must add that my wife has a 10 minute attention span when it comes to movies, so I watch many movies by myself on my downstairs TV (I do subscribe to the Movie Network, ya know), while she is upstairs in bed watching some “Better Homes Than Yours” show. The last time we went to see a movie in a theatre would probably have been Southpark, Bigger, Longer, and Uncut. I made her go with me.
There are no current movies I know of that I can’t wait 2 year until I get it on the Movie Network, that I want to see.
2. The last movie you rented/purchased for home viewing.
That was a while back too. The Sixth Sense, I believe. I really don’t believe, but you know what I mean.
3 A movie that made you laugh out loud.
Lots. The first one I remember laughing out loud to in a theatre was Blazing Saddles. What would you expect from a 13 year old going going to such a gaseous movie with a bunch of friends?
4. A movie that made you cry.
Peggy Sue Got Married. I spent a lot of dough that night on a chick including taking her to the movie, and I think I wound up with just a peck on the cheek. That bitch.
Seriously, many movies filled my eyes full of tears. Usually feel good movies where the hero overcomes lots of obstacles and odds and winds up saving the world. Sometimes even romantic movies where the guy gets the chick in the end (I’m not talking porn here). I don’t remember ever crying, though I probably came close when Dorothy woke up from her “dream,” the first time I actually understood the movie.
5 A movie that was a darling of the critics, but you didn't think lived up to the hype.
Recently I saw Walk the Line. It missed oomph. Just an average picture.
6. A movie that you thought was better than the critics.
The Man With Two Brains. One of the funniest movies ever. At least that is how I remember it.
7. Favorite animated movie.
I really liked The Point when I was a kid. Probably saw it 7 times, but I haven’t seen it since I was 15 or so. If I remember correctly, it was quite existential. I did like Finding Nemo and the Southpark movie.
8. Favorite Disney Villain.
I’m definitely a Looney Tunes/Merry Melodies type of guy. The Disney shorts are for 3 year olds and under. But I’ve seen a few Disney movies. I always hated the villains, so I’m not sure what is meant by favorite villain. Lets go with the Queen in Snow White because she reminds me of my mother.
9. Favorite movie musical.
Gotta go with The Wizard of Oz. I hope it is considered a musical.
Favorite movies of all-time (up to five).
1. Planet of the Apes (the real version)
2. Goodfellas
3. The Man With Two Brains
4. Sleeper
5. Groundhog Day
6. I have to add Once Upon In America too. Screw the rules.
Now to tag 5 potential victims. Kathy Blog (this should be fun), Professor Kurgman (I want to prove to the blogosphere that Kathy and the Professor are two different people), Mad Zionist (I'm looking at this choice as being a science project where MZ is a lab rat), Doctor Boogaloo (this should be easy for him), and Big Dumb Chimp (I've been neglecting his blog the last couple of weeks and it is too good to neglect, even if he has that Big Dumb Black Background that I find so annoying).
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