"Canada said Wednesday it was suspending assistance to the Palestinian Authority because the new Hamas-led government refuses to renounce violence and recognize Israel. Hamas responded that Ottawa's decision was hasty and unfair."
Of course the whiney pathetic Palestinians are going to cry like babies. They always do. They always make the wrong choice. They voted Hamas, they might as well voted in Al Qaeda. They were given fair warning that the West does not support TERROR.
This makes me really proud and happy: "CANADA has become the first state to announce a boycott of the new Hamas administration, announcing an end to diplomatic contacts and a freeze on annual aid worth $A29.5 million."
Cutting diplomatic ties to terrorists and not giving them aid is a no brainer. Yet the Far Left Libs (I smell skunk just typing that) and many Arabs will cry "but they are a democracy." Sorry, it may have been a democratic vote (the terrorist lovers spoke), but the result is a tyrannical leadership bent on the destruction of a civilized state. An entity with such a goal, is NO DEMOCRACY.
Well done. Now if the US gov will follw suite...
ReplyDeleteI love this whole Bush mantra of "Democracy is on the march." It is, indeed. The Palestinians held, by all accounts, a completely fair and democratic election. Who did they elect? Hamas. If we democratize countries in the Middle East, which types of governments will be elected? Probably Islamic theocracies. Democracy is a type of government; it speaks nothing of the policies behind it. Democratic elections can lead to Bill Clinton, or democratic elections can lead to Hamas and the Taliban. Democracy is not a positive end in itself. Bush is ignorant to that.
ReplyDeleteA small point of disagreement... Hamas is not committed to the destruction of a civilized state alone. They are committed to the destruction of a civilization - Western civilization, and the subjugation and humiliation of the infidels who populate it. Here, in his own words, is the leader of Hamas. We should take his words at face value, and respond accordingly.
ReplyDeleteFollowing are excerpts from an address given by Hamas leader Khaled Mash'al at the Al-Murabit Mosque in Damascus. The address was delivered following the Friday sermon at the mosque and was aired on Al-Jazeera TV on February 3, 2006.
Khaled Mash'al: We apologize to our Prophet Muhammad, but we say to him: Oh Prophet of Allah, do not be saddened, your nation will be victorious.
We say to this West, which does not act reasonably, and does not learn its lessons: By Allah, you will be defeated. You will be defeated in Palestine, and your defeat there has already begun. True, it is Israel that is being defeated there, but when Israel is defeated, its path is defeated, those who call to support it are defeated, and the cowards who hide behind it and support it are defeated. Israel will be defeated, and so will whoever supported or supports it.
America will be defeated in Iraq. Wherever the [Islamic] nation is targeted, its enemies will be defeated, Allah willing. The nation of Muhammad is gaining victory in Palestine. The nation of Muhammad is gaining victory in Iraq, and it will be victorious in all Arab and Muslim lands. "Their multitudes will be defeated and turn their backs [and flee]." These fools will be defeated, the wheel of time will turn, and times of victory and glory will be upon our nation, and the West will be full of remorse, when it is too late.
They think that history has ended with them. They do not know that the law of Allah cannot be changed or replaced. "You shall not find a substitute for the law of Allah. You shall not find any change to the law of Allah." Today, the Arab and Islamic nation is rising and awakening, and it will reach its peak, Allah willing. It will be victorious. It will link the present to the past. It will open up the horizons of the future. It will regain the leadership of the world. Allah willing, the day is not far off.
Don't you see that every act of deceit they contrive is being turned against them by Allah? Don't you see that they make every effort to defeat us militarily, but fail to do so? Israel and the occupation forces in Iraq are supplied with the entire Western military arsenal, yet they fail and are defeated.
Don't you see that they believe they are capable of using democracy to deceive the people, but then democracy is turned against them? Don't you see that they are spending their money in efforts to block the way of Allah, to thwart Hamas, to defeat it, and to help those whom they want, but [this plot] is turned against them? They are not acting reasonably.
They do not understand the Arab or Muslim mentality, which rejects the foreigner. Our Arab forefathers, before the advent of Islam, rejected the aggressors and the foreigners.
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I bring good tidings to our beloved Prophet Muhammad: Allah's promise and the Prophet's prophecy of our victory in Palestine over the Jews and over the oppressive Zionists has begun to come true.
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I say to the [European countries]: Hurry up and apologize to our nation, because if you do not, you will regret it. This is because our nation is progressing and is victorious. Do not leave a black mark in the collective memory of the nation, because our nation will not forgive you.
Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing. Apologize today, before remorse will do you no good. Our nation is moving forwards, and it is in your interest to respect a victorious nation.
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Our nation will be victorious. When it reaches the leadership of the world, and controls its own will decisions, then it will prevent this overt interference [in our affairs], and its pillaging of natural resources, and will prevent these recurring offenses against our land, against our nation, and against our holy places – then you will regret it.
The Western countries must stop the fools. Are these reasonable people? They allow offenses against Allah and the prophets. They are not offending only Muhammad, but all the prophets. But when an historian among them talks about the Holocaust, it is the sin of all sins. If anybody criticizes the Jews, this constitutes anti-Semitism. By law, they hold their own people accountable [for that]. The West, which waved the slogans of liberty after the French Revolution, three centuries ago, does not respect its own principles or slogans today. It violates them.
This victory, which was clearly evident in the elections, conveys a message to Israel, to America, and to all the oppressors around the world: You have no way of overcoming us. If you want war, we are ready. If you want democracy, we are ready. Whatever you want – we are ready. You will not defeat us. The time of defeat is over. Defeat within six days, defeat within hours, the defeat of armies – all this is over.
Today, you are fighting the army of Allah. You are fighting against peoples, for whom death for the sake of Allah, and for the sake of honor and glory, is preferable to life. You are fighting a nation that doest not tire, even after a 1,000 years of fighting. Today, you are facing peoples filled with faith, with the love of Allah, the love of Allah's Prophet, with bravery, glory, and pride – a nation that knows its way, a nation that knows what it is, a nation that respects itself. How can you possibly defeat us?
There is a chasm between you and our defeat. You will be the ones to be defeated, Allah willing. The time of defeat is gone, and the day of victory has come, Allah willing. Wherever you turn, you will fail.
Crowd: Death to Israel. Death to Israel. Death to America.
Khaled Mash'al: Before Israel dies, it must be humiliated and degraded. Allah willing, before they die, they will experience humiliation and degradation every day. America will be of no avail to them. Their generals will be of no avail to them. The last of their generals has been forgotten. Allah has made him disappear. He's over. Gone is that Sharon, behind whose back they would hide and find shelter, and with whom they would feel relatively secure. Today they have frail leaders, who don't even know where our Lord placed them.
Allah willing, we will make them lose their eyesight, we will make them lose their brains.
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Their weapons will be of no avail to them. Their nuclear weapons will be of no use to them. They thought that they had hegemony over the region with their nuclear weapons, but suddenly Pakistan popped up with Islamic nuclear weapons, and they are afraid of Iran and several Arab countries have some chemical weapons.
Israel has begun to sense that its superiority has come to an end. Its army, which has superior conventional weapons – the air force, the armored corps, and the missiles – there are no longer wars in which these are used.
The Arabs have said: We don't want [conventional] wars, thank you very much. Leave the war to the peoples. Today, the Israeli weapons are of no use against the peoples. We have imposed a new equation in the war. In this equation, our tools are stronger. That is why we will defeat them, Allah willing.
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"If you fight them, they will turn their backs on you, and will not be victorious." But the problem is that we need to fight them first. If we sleep at home, how are we to beat them?! "If you fight them..." – that is a divine promise... "If" – It is conditional: "If you fight them, they will turn their backs on you and will not be victorious." And indeed, when we began to fight, and we armed ourselves with a will to fight, we defeated them.
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That is why Allah Akbar [Allah is greater]. We say that every day – Allah Akbar. Yes, Allah is greater than America. Allah is greater than the oppressors. Allah is greater than the superpowers. Allah is greater than the tyranny of the oppressing world, and Allah is greater than Israel. Since Allah is greater, and He supports us, we will be victorious.
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By Allah, I know that all Arab leaders – and I have met many of them – deep inside want the resistance in Palestine to be victorious, and want Palestine to be liberated. Perhaps the need for flattery and for diplomacy, and the American hegemony force other things on them, but in their hearts they are happy when we are victorious.
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If before the Hamas victory, there were several military wings, each with a few hundred or a few thousand fighters, under the rule of Hamas, if you continue to besiege us, to starve our people, to ignore our rights, and if you continue your occupation, your aggression, and your assassinations, we, the Hamas, will declare a general call to arms. We will place the entire Palestinian people at the disposal of the resistance and its weapons.
Crowd: Allah akbar, Allah be praised. Allah akbar, Allah be praised. Allah akbar, Allah be praised. Allah akbar, Allah be praised. Allah akbar, Allah be praised. Allah akbar, Allah be praised.
Khaled Mash'al: Be careful not to drive our people into a corner - Occupation, aggression, assassinations, 9,000 male and female prisoners, preventing aid, imposing a siege, causing starvation – and on top of all this, you don't want to recognize democracy and its results.
The German [Chancellor Angela] Merkel pops up and says: Democracy and success in the elections are not sufficient for Hamas to gain legitimacy. To hell with you all. How are we supposed to gain legitimacy? When you said we had the legitimacy of resistance, you called it terrorism. Now, we say we have the legitimacy of democracy, but you deny it. In that case, you yourself are not legitimate, because you emerged through democracy. This is the logic of a frail and defeatist person.
Brothers and sister, there is confusion in the Western world, and in the American administration. Allah has come to them from where they did not expect him. That is the grace of Allah. That is why we do not fear them. We do not fear their threats.
Today they give us an ultimatum: Recognize Israel. Wonderful! The murderer is not required by anyone to recognize the rights of his victim, but the victim is required to recognize the rights of his murderer, and to sing his praises.
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Hamas has a vision. Hamas has a plan. Hamas can manage the political battle, just like it managed the military battle, but in a different language, with different tools, and recognizing Israel is not one of them. Nor is giving up the rights, giving up the right to resistance, and nor is giving up the weapons of the resistance.
Nevertheless, we want to deal with politics, but there is a difference between the politics of the weak and defeatists, which we will constantly repeat – the kind of politics that does not impress the enemy and so it does nothing, because, like in the market, products that are praised too much become cheap. If we continue to praise our products, constantly saying: "We love peace," "We have given up the option of war," "Peace is our strategic option," "For God's sake, Israel, give us a few scraps of land" – By Allah, we will be degraded in the eyes of our enemies.
We will conduct our politics in the language of victory. We will conduct our policy in a confident language. We will conduct our politics in the language of those who are steadfast and sure of themselves. Besides, by Allah, after the people has elected us, and has bestowed upon us all this power, we will disrespect its rights?
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The people has given us a deposit, and has empowered us to liberate its land, to restore Jerusalem and its holy places. It has empowered us to release 9,000 male and female prisoners. It has empowered us to stop the aggression, to liberate the land, and to restore its rights. The people has empowered us to bring back 5.5 million Palestinian refugees and displaced people to their homeland. After all this, Hamas – in order to please America and the European Union, and in order for the pressure on us to stop, and in order for their highnesses to allow us to establish a government... We are not trying to please them.
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I say to America, Europe, and the West: It is in your interests to change your relations and policies regarding the Arab and Islamic nation and the Palestinian cause. Because we are winning, it is in your interests to deal with the victors, not the losers.
Israel will be defeated and will be of no use to you. The Arabs will be victorious. The Muslims will be victorious. Palestine will be victorious. Change your policy soon, if you want to protect your interests, and maintain healthy relations with the East.
Good job, Canada.
ReplyDeleteMan I never thought I would say those words. :P j/k
I'm very disappointed that the U.S. hasn't done the same. Then again, it doesn't matter what Bush says or does if you think about it. Anything the man or the administration does is wrong. He's the first person in history that is wrong on everything, even though our nation's unemployment is a mere 5% (maybe lower), the economy is going strong,and no terrorist attacks have happened since we got sucker punched on 9-11.
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As a person living in Israel, I was overjoyed to hear about the Canadian decision, and felt like I should thank them in some way.
ReplyDeleteBut how? I asked myself.
Then, the answer came to me in a vision. From now on, I shall only be buying ATI Graphics cards :)
Although no fan of Hamas and their tactics, let us not forget Israel's ill-fated role as colonial oppressor. A role which reflected recent election results that showed the door to most of Likud and their 'Bush-like' right-wing policies. Entities and goals are as diverse as the peoples and their histories that created them.
ReplyDeleteOmar, I guess it is all perception. Knowing the history, I only see Israel as being the attackee since 1948.
ReplyDeleteWhat would you have done if you were Israel up until now? You can't force peace on someone who doesn't want it.
It is so difficult to say what I would or would not have done. Discussion usually leaves you branded an anti-semite. Needless to say, the foundations to 'create' Israel through the Balfour Declaration was one made without too much thought about what would become of the Arabs that lived there. Palestine, ancient ancestral home of the jews? True. Modern home of the Arabs? Also true. Two 'rights' making a wrong? Perhaps....
ReplyDeleteHere is my take. 80% of Israel was uninhabited in 1900. The Jews started going there, so did the Arabs to keep up.
ReplyDeleteIn 1948, Arabs only owned 20% of the Partition land. Jews only 8%, but the bottom line is most was up for negotiation. The Jews successfully lobbied for a Jewish majority state. Since most of the land was British state land, Israel was formed fair and square.
No country established today occurred pleasing everyone.
The Arabs have been their worst enemy. They are living in the past, and always have.
Israel has been on the defensive. And has won 5 wars in the meantime.
The only technological and medical bright spot in the middle east is Israel.
The Palestinian Arabs have made their bed, and thanks to the Hamas vote, I don't even give them any consideration any more.
(according to wikipedia)In 1900, Palestine had a population of about 600,000 of which 94% were Arabs. The immigration of Jews, dramatically changed the demographics. By 1948, the population had risen to 1,900,000, of whom 68% were Arabs, and 32% were Jews (UNSCOP report, including bedouin).
ReplyDeleteIt would seem to me that you can take the theism out of the jew, but you cannot take the (anti-arab)jew out of the atheist.
Again, 600,000 people on 20% of the land. Most of the land was up for grabs. The Jews lobbied successfully for it.
ReplyDeleteI look at Israel as a place for Jews to go in case anti-semitism rears its ugly head in the world again. As seen in France recently, some French Jews left for Israel.
The idea of Israel was a place for Jews to escape anti-semitism as Europe was becoming very hostile in the mid to late 1800's. Herzl was an Atheist by the way. And Hitler later proved him right. The Nazis didn't ask if a Jew believed in God or not before he was murdered.
Your 1948 numbers are off. The partition land had a slightly higher amount of Jews. Wikipedia is having an editing war right now.
No Palestinian had to be displaced. And again, it was 58 years ago, Arabs seem incapable of looking into the future, they are stuck in the past.
And again, I have no sympathy left for the Palestinians. None.
Well spoken BEAJ!
ReplyDeleteThat was inspiring. I'm tired of everyone trying to kick the Jews from wherever they are. Before the state of Israel, everyone told the Jews "Get outta here! Go to Israel.", then it was like "Get outta Israel!, Go to hell!"
Sick of it.
It would appear that the price one pays for having a 'popular' blog is that it gets inundated with boorish, uninformed and not very insightful commentary. C'est la vie
ReplyDeleteOmar, unlike you, I actually live here, so spare me your condescending remarks. If anyone here is uninformed is you.
ReplyDeleteAnd just because I like to keep my language simple does not mean you're more intelligent. It just means you're still trying to prove it.
How absolutely marvelous for you, erick. Being a racist, xenophobic schlemiel likely facilitates your ability to live "there" while at the same time hindering your language skills...priceless.
ReplyDeleteProven.
You're not gonna drag me into this, buddy. If you're interested in internet fights then find yourself some other target. Sorry, Not interested.
ReplyDeleteIs it the 'getting the last word in' thing that interests you erick? ...internet fights? If memory serves, and if it doesn't scrolling does, you shot your hole off at a comment I had previously left to get this bagel rolling. So piss the fuck off with your holier than thou attitude...Mr. I live in Israel. Where exactly in Israel? Right...
ReplyDeleteFunny that, we don't support terrorists hmmm like the founders of Israel. And while you are critical of fundamentalists its fundies like Stockwell Day who are heros in Israel...for exactly this kind of policy
ReplyDeleteI support Israel as a place of refuge for Jews to escape anti-semitism anywhere in the world.
ReplyDeleteSee France.
No nation was formed without violence. And the "terrorists" you say were the founders of Israel do not compare at all to the blood lusting Palestinians, who applaud terrorist acts if they aren't participating in them.
The founding fathers of Israel were Judeo-nazi war criminals. They were all racist terrorists. Israel is just the continuation of the 3rd Reich, call it the 4Th Reich if you prefer.
ReplyDeleteDid you know that proto-nazi Herzl saw Israel as extending from the Nile to the Euphrates?
Have you ever read the rules and contracts of the Jewish Agency--that was its name--which was set up deal with acquisition of Palestinian land. Only Jews were to be allowed to live and work on the land.
Zionist lebensraum is no different than nazi lebensraum.
OK, now you can get out your WMD--Word of Mass Destruction--anti-semitism. When zionist fanatics have nothing to say, the cry about that.
Racist, terrorist, apartheid Israel must disappear as apartheid South Africa disappeared. They were both established in the same
I'm not going to delete your post. I like viewing impotent Arab lies and rhetoric every now and then.
ReplyDeleteI see you have no problem with Islams apartheid behaviour.
Keep lying.
I don't need to lie. You can check out all the facts if you have the cojones. As I have suggested before, check out the site palestineremembered.com.
ReplyDeleteYou bet me that I couldn't back up what I said. But here I give you the proof and you refuse to consider it.
Your support of zionism is incoherent. It belies title of atheist jew. If you are indeed a rationalist, you must be open to investigating facts that go counter to your bias and prejudice.
Just the names of a few Jews who criticize zionism. Norman Finkelstein, Alfred Liliansthal, Lenni Brenner.
By the way, I am a white anglo-saxon protestant, not an Arab. I am an atheist and I criticize Mohammedanism as much as I criticize Christianity and Judaism. Do you know the site Apostates of Islam?
Zionism is a bit different as it is a contemporary racist colonialist political ideology. Zionism was invented by white racist Europeans such as Herzl. Herzl, as other Europeans of the time, saw the lands of dark-skinned peoples as fair game. What's mine is mine, what's yours is mine. Israel is one of the last bastions of 19TH century European colonialism and imperialism.
Israel was built on Jewish terrorism. Just one example is Ariel Sharon and Unit 101. Ok, a second, judeo-nazi terrorist Shamir had UN Representative Count Bernadotte assassinated. It didn't matter that Bernadotte had saved thousands of Jews in WWII. Anyone opposing zionist terrorists was fair game.
The examples of zionist perfidy are legion. But you don't want to debate because you don't want to lose your illusions about zionism and Israel.
You are like Christians who hate us atheists because they doubt themselves and so prefer to blame the messenger.
Herzl was an Atheist. Did you know that? He saw anti-semitism as a reason for a Jewish state. I have seen your source, and it is full of half truths and lies and cherry picks through history.
ReplyDeleteIf you aren't an Arab/Muslim, you should be, because you think like one. And that isn't a compliment. See my post on Arab IQs.
Israel needs to exist because of people like you who worries about Jews so much, and focuses on Israel of all things when it comes to Human Rights. If people like you were in power, Jews would be wiped off the planet. If you were sincere, you would focus on Darfur.
It is evident what you are. So stop fooling around. It is dishonest of you.
"If you aren't an Arab/Muslim, you should be, because you think like one. And that isn't a compliment. See my post on Arab IQs.
ReplyDeleteIsrael needs to exist because of people like you who worries about Jews so much, and focuses on Israel of all things when it comes to Human Rights. If people like you were in power, Jews would be wiped off the planet."
Wait what? I unfortunately have not read your blog entry about Arab IQ, but to a casual surfer you sound dangerously close to racist (as do other people too). But then again I have a bit of an outsider's view on such "quaint" labels such as 'ethnicities'. While as there definitely are statistic genetic differences between ethic groups, my impression is that culture and environment matters more than genes. Adopt away the baby of two east-asian nobel-award winners to a seriously abusive family in a slum, and he's only somewhat more likely to rise above his peers, thanks to the 'brainier' genes, but mostly random circumstance.
I personally am genetically a hodge-podge of a wide array of ethnicities, and my impression is that the quickest way to herd an extremely diverse group of cats is to threaten them for being cats. Ever heard the following quote?: "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." -- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials
This is relevant as that a lot of leaders in the middle east are telling infuriating and idiotic lies about jews to the people as fact, and that also a lot of middle-east 'jews' do the same about the arabs. The same way an fundamentalist jew in Israel is a far cry from an atheistic scientist jew in for instance Belgium, a fundamentalist arab in the middle-east is a far cry from an atheistic scientist arab in Belgium. Please stop lumping all the jews/arabs/whatever into the same group. Since you proudly proclaim yourself to be an atheist, I'll make the bold assumption that you too think religions are of no more use to an intelligent society than greek mythology, and surely you see the fallacy of lumping people into the same group by religion instead of by how far removed they are from such. A secularist of any religion is above fundamentalists, etc. Muslims think the same way 'Judaists' and Christians do, it's just a matter of what the different parameters contain. Habits, degree of secularism and rational thinking etc...
I hope you can forgive the longwinded and very incomplete rant, but I at times have to cave a bit in to the five-year-old deep inside of me that stomps its foot in frustration, demanding people stop being 'poopy-heads' and use more logic, rational thoughts and positive preventative measures. There are more things that unite us all on this planet than divide us. There will always be war and idiocy, we who are rational enough to stand above religion should try our best to stand above other foolish thought patterns such as racism too. 'Reverse racism' is still racism, the same way misandry is as bad as misogyny. In the short run the latter may seem as worse due to current society's condition, but in the long run both are equally corrosive and illogical.
And regarding my impression of your concept of IQ and intelligence, please have a look at this, there's a lot more to it than its title: http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/ken_robinson_says_schools_kill_creativity.html