Two white supremacist bloggers that I've come across recently, The Sentinel and Chris Womak from Politically Correct Apostate, are scared to death that WHITEY shares the same common ancestor as the Boys From Da Hood.
The Sentinel often comments that "nobody knows for sure," when drilled about how Europeans came into existence. I think he thinks that WHITEY either came from special white primates or they were specially created. His "not sure" stance allows him to keep his head in the sand.
Hitler believed that Aryans were direct descendants of Adam and Eve, and that Jesus was an Aryan (not a Joooo), and that all non-Aryans are not related to Adam and Eve but came from other lines. His views on evolution from less sophisticated animals is unknown to me at this time. He did investigate the Hollow Earth theory, which possibly would explain that SUPER WHITES came from the center of the earth. Yeah, Hitler was a nut.
Womak, a Joooo paranoid creep, recently wrote a post on a recently published article. Actually, he just copied the article, and added an idiotic title to it: Liberals Out Of Africa Theory Gets Another Knock.
The thing is, the recent speculation that the first humans in Europe landed in Eastern Europe rather than Central or Western Europe does not conflict with the Out Of Africa theory, which states that modern humans evolved in Africa 200,000 to 100,000 years ago and many began to migrate to other continents around 50-80,000 years ago.
He must really hate the idea that he has African ancestors (we all do, and I'm perfectly fine with it). Womak, you are nothing but a nappy headed beatch.
My searches for WHITEY'S view on common ancestry took my over to Stormfront (where Joooo paranoid Aryan goofballs pretend they are special. There is a discussion about Neanderthals. I read the whole thread. First off, I was impressed by many of the poster's knowledge about evolution and common ancestry. Many would love to deny that all humans originated in Africa. Some want to turn the clock back as much as possible, and some wanted to believe they had some Neanderthal blood that possibly gave them blue eyes and blond hair (I kid you not). There were a couple of YECs there, but for the most part they conducted a rational discussion and they didn't even mention Joooos once.
One disappointment there was the fact that one of the posters is an FSM member. We already know that there are some scummy atheists around, just as there are some scummy theists.
Speaking of scum. Check out how I burned a scummy Joooo paranoid imbecile on my new site Judeophobe Watch.
That anyone who wants to believe the protocols to be anything but a notorious anti-semitic forgery is stunning to me. The guy is clearly a nutjob. BEAJ- thanks for keeping up with the good work.
ReplyDeleteAmazing the stupidity that runs rampant in this day and age.
ReplyDeleteDude. I want to be related to Neanderthals. That would be awesome. And not because "aryans" are better or anything (I have some Polish ancestry anyway), just because I want to imagine a world in which two different intelligent species-- not just races, SPECIES-- were able to overlook differences, live, work, and do the nasty together and it was cool.
ReplyDeleteOf course, there are many, many reasons why Homo Sapiens from that region developed lighter pigmentation in hair and eyes, and they all have to do with the local climate and would have developed millennia after the Neanderthals were on the way out. That sort of thing takes a really long time.
And -- hmm-- maybe I'm remembering this wrong, but-- didn't Neanderthals die out, thus proving that Homo Sapiens were the superior race, thus indicating that Neanderthal blood would make Europeans biologically inferior?
White supremacists are morons Basiorana.
ReplyDeleteInteresting article I saw though. I'd like to see your take on it.
Looks like the Neanderthals couldn't handle the weather.
But it is possible to be related to a Neanderthal when the two species just started to diverge, just like when the human line and chimp line diverged 5 million years ago, there could have been up to a million years of interbreeding.
White supremacists ARE morons. Funny how almost all of them are trailer trash idiots and that 99.9 per cent of people with even a high school degree have long given up on supremacy as an answer to their problems. Also funny how most white (and other) supremacists are utter failures and their "supremacy" comes from getting together in small groups, drinking lots of beers, tattooing their dumbass body parts and gesturing in funny ways with their hands and arms or hiding behind white sheets and blaming others for their own shortcomings.
ReplyDeleteI guess we must be missing something, beaj.
I am isolationist, not a supremacist but I know it is hard for you to think beyond your prejudices and limited vocabulary of smears and labels.
ReplyDeleteI say that no one knows our origin for sure, because, no one knows our origin for sure: There are theories, of course, with missing links in all of them. As I have said a few times now, if anyone says they KNOW where we all came with absolute certainty, they are either lying or insane.
Contradictions arise all the time, and we cannot even say with any certainty what time and space really are, and we cannot even pinpoint the exact location of atomic particles such as electrons, all basics of life, so to believe that we can identify our genesis with any accuracy is farcical.
As for Hitler he was no Christain, that is for sure.
“The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity. Bolshevism practices a lie of the same nature, when it claims to bring liberty to men, whereas in reality it seeks only to enslave them. In the ancient world, the relations between men and gods were founded on an instinctive respect. It was a world enlightened by the idea of tolerance. Christianity was the first creed in the world to exterminate its adversaries in the name of love. Its keynote is intolerance..."
"Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure."
Adolf Hitler, Night of 11th-12th July 1941
'‘You see, it’s been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn’t we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness….”5 (A. Speer, Inside the Third Reich, pp. 142-143)
And whilst the Nazi leadership were utterly obsessed with the occult and esoteric knowledge publicly, it is no different for other world leaders, privately, with Bush and his Skull and Bones crap and Bohemian grove as examples.
The Nazis however had their apparent fair share of admixture, with very few of the leaders conforming to the Nordic ideal.
There is a historical evidence to suggest that Hitter was of Jewish descent, quite possibly of the Rothschild bloodline and we all know that Heydrich was almost certainly part Jewish too. Rosenberg was often rumoured to have Jewish blood additionally, along with some other high ranking members.
There is an enormous amount of historical contradictions of the image of an unrelenting, unequivocal, systematic and murderous persecution of all Jews.
For a start, we know that Zionist Jews were instrumental in financing the Nazis to power.
In his book, I Paid Hitler, Thyssen admitted that the Nazis themselves had been obliged to recognize the services rendered by the Jewish Simon Hirschland Bank in Essen, which had arranged Wall Street loans for Hitler through another Jewish bank in New York, Goldman Sachs & Co. For a long time no-one dared lay hands on the Simon Hirschland Bank, despite pressure from the extremist element of the Nazi Party. (Wall Street and The Rise Of Hitler by Anthony C. Sutton)
We also know that when the Soviet Army occupied Berlin in 1945, a fully functioning Jewish community a few thousand strong, complete with synagogue, was still in existence in the German capital. Some of these Jews were called the 'promient' Jews are could not be touched, with one explanation for some, that were instrumental in securing the 1936 olympic games for Berlin. (A. Speer, Inside the Third Reich, p345)
Other Jews were rescued from Gestapo HQ by woman:
"On February 27, 1943, SS soldiers and local Gestapo agents began seizing the Jews of Berlin ...They were loaded onto trucks and taken to the Jewish community's administration building at Rosenstrasse 2-4, in the heart of the city...Word spread quickly about the abductions in Berlin, and before long a group of non-Jewish German women had gathered on the Rosenstrasse with food and other personal items for their Jewish husbands and children, whom they believed were being held inside. One of the women, Charlotte Israel, arrived and found 150 women already huddled outside... One woman's brother, a soldier on leave, approached an SS guard and said, "If my brother-in-law is not released, I will not return to the front." The crowds grew considerably despite the winter chill, and soon women waited outside day and night, holding hands, singing songs, and chanting "Let our husbands go!" By the second day of the protest, over 600 women were keeping a vigil on the Rosenstrasse...
By the end of the week Goebbels saw no alternative but to let the prisoners go. Some thirty-five Jewish male prisoners, who had already been sent to Auschwitz, were ordered to gather their belongings and board a passenger train back to Berlin...1,700 were prisoners set free..all the intermarried Jewish men were released..."
http://www.aforcemorepowerful.org/book/excerpts/denmark.php
And they remained in Berlin, unharmed until the end of the war; far removed from the popular image of the blood soaked foaming beasts who took away people for mere suspicion- where no one was safe; or where to go to Auschwitz meant certain death.
The Nazis released these Jews from Auschwitz meaning 1) They were not gassed, 2) Accurate procedures and records were kept of each prisoner and their status 3) The Nazis were not bothered by what they might say of Auschwitz.
But, as in all wars, much accepted of the era was false propaganda that was never corrected. (By the victors who have no need too.)
Take the Jesse Owens story, with Hitler in a rage shunning him popularly touted as fact.
The reality was in fact substantially different: what happened was that Hitler personally attended the first day of the track and field competition on 2 August 1936, and did personally congratulate the German athlete Hans Woellke, who became the first German to win a gold medal in the Olympics since 1896.
Throughout the rest of the day, Hitler continued to receive Olympic champions, German and non German, in his VIP box.
The next day, 3 August, the chairman of the International Olympic Committee, Comte Baillet-Latour, approached Hitler early in the morning and told the German leader that he had violated Olympic protocol by having winners paraded to his box.
Hitler apologized and gave a promise that he would from then on refrain from publicly congratulating any winners, German or otherwise. During this day, Owens won his gold medals - and in line with the Olympic Committee's ruling, Hitler did not shake his hand, or anybody else's for that matter, at the games again.
It is therefore utterly false to claim that Hitler deliberately chose to ignore Owens. In fact, in The Jesse Owens Story, Owens himself recounted how Hitler had stood up and waved to him:
"When I passed the Chancellor he arose, waved his hand at me, and I waved back at him. I think the writers showed bad taste in criticizing the man of the hour in Germany." - Jesse Owens, The Jesse Owens Story, 1970.
Another common story about the 1936 Olympic games is that Owens' victory "disproved the Nazi master race theory" - in fact the Olympic games as a whole were won by the German team with 89 medals, compared to the 56 medals won by the second placed USA team.
In what was to become an act of extreme irony, the American president of the time, Franklin D. Roosevelt, then involved in an election and concerned about the reaction in the USA's southern states, refused to see Owens at the White House: Owens was later to remark that it was Roosevelt, not Hitler, who snubbed him.
There are many mysteries, falsehoods and outright lies surrounding that era, and it is against the law in most of Europe to investigate them.
There are much bigger mysteries in this world though, and our genesis, our origin is just one- one that may never be known.
Sentinel, why don't you just write a post on your blog instead of a post in my comments. To address all your misconceptions and bullshit you just posted would take some time. That is probably why you put it all together, so that you can come back and question why someone didn't address a certain "point" you were trying to make.
ReplyDeleteFirst off, there is tons of evidence that Hitler believed in Christ and God. He wasn't a good Christian, but he was a Christian.
Mein Kempf is full of quotes about God. The quotes that make him appear anti-Christian were second hand ramblings that were published by a Nazi atheist.
Being an "isolationist" what exactly makes one English? Or white English? If a person has a grandparent who was a Jew, is that person white English? How about great grandparent?
Nobody knows for sure? You are such a dumbass. It is a fact that man evolved in Africa and that we evolved from ape-like mammals who evolved from the first mammals who were shrew like. That is fact. There is no evidence to the contrary. None. And plenty of evidence to support the theory.
Zionist Jews had deals in place prior to 1933 to try to get Jews out of Germany and into the Palestine region.
As far as Jews financing the Nazis, American firms invested in Germany just as American firms did business with the Bin Ladens. Jews weren't financing the genocide of Jews if that is what you are trying to pollute my comment section with.
"We also know that when the Soviet Army occupied Berlin in 1945, a fully functioning Jewish community a few thousand strong, complete with synagogue, was still in existence in the German capital."
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Congratulations. You've given attention to a troll. He now has what he wants.
ReplyDeleteThis person attempted a comment flood on my blog. I turned on moderation and deleted them. That's as much attention as trolls deserve.
That was a reponse to your charges, nothing more.
ReplyDeleteIf you cannot address the facts between you then there is something wrong.
Hiter never once mentioned 'God' but 'providence.'
And the quotes come fro many sources, not just one 'atheist' Nazi; besides, as you pointed out Hitler believed in the occult and possibly the hollow earth theory, contrary to all Christian teachings, in addition to the Nazi persecution of priests and the attempt to replace the national religion with one its own, the worship of Hitler.
No one, but you, KNOWS wher we all come from. But answer me this, if you are so certain, what did these primates evolve from, and then their evolutionary descendants to the point of inception?
In other words, how did life start, any life?
As for Jews financing Nazis, we know they did just as we know they arranged their own deportations, drawing up lists and even policing the camps.
As for a source for the Berlin synagogue, I found a quick one that you may find hard to discredit, when I have a bit more time I will find a better one.
Have a look at Figure 6: The children's choir of the Heidereutergasse Synagogue in Berlin (Photo by Rotholz, Berlin, April 1942) for a picture of some very healthy, happy, well fed, well clothed Jewish children in full religious regalia, at the height of the war, in the heart of the Nazi state.
http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/site/pp.asp?c=gvKVLcMVIuG&b=394975
Gary, this isn't Rickey. Sentinel usually sticks to commenting on the posts, but in a mentally ill sort of way.
ReplyDeleteSentinel, you didn't address my question about who is an English white, and what makes an English white "tainted" with Jooooish blood.
Hitler never mentioned God once?
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My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison...
[Adolf Hitler, speech on April 12, 1922, published in My New Order, quoted in Freethought Today April 1990]
And the founder of Christianity made no secret indeed of his estimation of the Jewish people. When He found it necessary, He drove those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God. [Adolph Hitler, Mein Kampf, pp.174]
But if out of smugness, or even cowardice, this battle is not fought to its end, then take a look at the peoples five hundred years from now. I think you will find but few images of God, unless you want to profane the Almighty. [Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1, Chapter 10]
The folkish-minded man, in particular, has the sacred duty, each in his own denomination, of making people stop just talking superficially of God's will, and actually fulfill God's will, and not let God's word be desecrated. For God's will gave men their form, their essence and their abilities. Anyone who destroys His work is declaring war on the Lord's creation, the divine will. [Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf Vol. 2 Chapter 10]
For this, to be sure, from the child's primer down to the last newspaper, every theater and every movie house, every advertising pillar and every billboard, must be pressed into the service of this one great mission, until the timorous prayer of our present parlor patriots: 'Lord, make us free!' is transformed in the brain of the smallest boy into the burning plea: 'Almighty God, bless our arms when the time comes; be just as thou hast always been; judge now whether we be deserving of freedom; Lord, bless our battle!' [Adolf Hitler's prayer, Mein Kampf, Vol. 2 Chapter 13]
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Your source for the Berlin Jewish community center is Stormfront. ROFLMAO
Also, the link to the picture you are referring does not work. I think you mindlessly cut and paste most of your work mindlessly.
Evolution doesn't account for how life began, however it is related.
ReplyDeleteNot knowing for sure how exactly the first cell life came into being has nothing to do with man's evolution from shrew to primate etc.
However, plausible theories exist on how life began.
Abiogenesis
BEAJ: Maybe Gary has a point we should harken to. Giving this idiot attention via visiting his blog will only help him in the long run.
ReplyDeleteAs for his monologue(it is a monologue as far as no one reading your flimsy accussations, Sent) Sent here just wants to prove the improvable: Jooooooooooooooos are the origin of sin or something to that extent. Am I getting you right so far, Sentinel?
gary mcgarth,
ReplyDeleteYou decided to throw a few gratuitous insults at me so I made a few, much milder observations on your blog.
If you can't take it, don't put it out.
As for troll, that is another word bandied with far too much ease, usually to cover an inept commentator or the use of argumentum ad hominem , inversely portraying the user as a troll themselves, in the true definition of the term.
It certainly does not apply to me.
What bothers you is dissent; if people agree and affirm that is fine. if they disagree they must be "trolls" and silenced.
Which is great if you want to live in a fantasy land where everyone agrees (with you) but in the real world, of course, many, many do not. You can either bury your head in the sand or try and find out why.
Eitan Ha'ahzari,
The same goes for you.
As much as you disagree with what I have to say, it does not make it trolling by a long shot- merely a diametrically opposed outlook.
Real danger and discontent comes from suppression of freedom and the silencing of opinions.
I have not suggested the Jews are the origin of sin, in fact I have made it clear that we have no idea of 'origins' what I point out is the disproportionate influence they have over the levers of power in many, many countries and that their loyalties lie with each other, in the main.
As I have said countless times, ordinary Jews are the same as everyone else and largely just want to get on with life, it is the Zionist that are the real trouble; Zionists who already have Zion but want much, much more.
And I am not sure what favours you believe I am having done for me here.
beaj,
"Sentinel, you didn't address my question about who is an English white, and what makes an English white "tainted" with Jooooish blood."
I didn't answer because it is fairly obvious; an 'English white' is, quite obviously, an English white and a white born in England with Jewish blood is quite obviously a white with Jewish blood.
The English are Anglo-Saxons, that is to say Nordic in the main, with all the various branches of subsequent invaders, the Viking and Norman's (Norsemans) etc. coming from essentially the same stock.
But we are British, so we include Celts and Picts into the British family, which are virtually indistinguishable in any case.
I notice that you cherry picked the Hitler 'christian' quotes from your source carefully as most refer to the creator or almighty creator rather then 'god.'
In fact, in the original Mein Kampf, the draft he exclusively used the word "Vorsehung" (providence) rather then "Got" (god) and the editor dropped and substituted some for popular digest (most Germans being Catholics.); just as many other words were cut and edited over the first and subsequent editions- kike being one of them.
The fact is that Hitler and the Nazis despised Christianity and the priesthood, Calling them 'black crows' and imprisoned many of them. Hitter was a pragmatist however, and learned that the church had a long tradition and needed a long solution, whereas Bormann, Himmler and Heydrich were enthusiastic for a fast break.
The Nazis attempted to set up a rival church to lure away Catholics replete with a swastika alter and Mein kampf in lieu of bible. The SS tried to wean out Christianity within its ranks by use of rules and regulations but the opposition was so great even Himmler had to back down.
My source for the Berlin synagogue still functioning in 1945 is both from books and first hand sources- I was based in Germany for many years as a soldier and associated with many Germans of that era- but I try to only use credible sources (otherwise it is pointless.)
I have never looked at 'stormfront' and you clearly know more about it then me, and of course, I cut and paste quotes as you do to save on typing, but that is about it.
I tested the link I provided a few times and it works for me, it must be a problem with your browser, and here it is again:
http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/site/pp.asp?c=gvKVLcMVIuG&b=394975
Have a look at Figure 6: The children's choir of the Heidereutergasse Synagogue in Berlin (Photo by Rotholz, Berlin, April 1942) for a picture of some very healthy, happy, well fed, well clothed Jewish children in full religious regalia, at the height of the war, in the heart of the Nazi state.
And finally, as regards evolution, am I to understand that you say scientists KNOW that we evolved from a certain species (primates you say), and that those species evolved from another and so on and so forth, that they KNOW this but cannot tell us the original species or form of life that all of this come from, or indeed how that was formed or 'given' life, in the first place?
They cannot trace it all back to its root, its source?
So how do they KNOW anything, if they cannot do this?
And then we arrive at the old conundrum, who, or what 'initiated' life in the first place? What was the first particle, or organism or structure that was deemed to be a life form and how did that occur from nothing?
OK, the link worked. It shows that Jews were deported from Berlin in April 1942 as well. Most likely propaganda film, the kids were told to smile etc. To be honest, I'm not sure how and why Jews were still in Berlin in 1942 and how they were treated etc.
ReplyDeleteBut I highly doubt that in 1945 they existed in a normal community that you can't find a link for.
Again, the origin of life doesn't take away from the knowledge that we have about the evolution of man over the last 2 million years.
This is just more proof of your density.
Do we need to know how life began to know that a meteorite hit earth 65 million years ago?
Sentinel, I did some more research for you:
ReplyDeleteFor two weeks in August of 1936, the treatment of the Jews and other persecuted minorities in Germany was hidden while the Summer Olympics were held in Berlin. In an attempt to legitimize his rule, Hitler cleansed the city of incriminating evidence, so that the international community saw no sign of wrongdoing. Of course, no German Jews were allowed to participate in the event, and as soon as the Olympics ended, the mistreatment continued, and accelerated.
In 1941 things changed even more dramatically. Many more areas of the city were declared off limits for Jews, and laws were enacted requiring Jews to wear the infamous yellow badge. Between 1941 and 1943, all the city's Jews were deported to camps throughout Europe, and, on June 16, 1943, Berlin was declared Judenrein (“clean of Jews”).
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I did find this, but it goes against what you stated:
Although the Nazis had proclaimed their capital city Berlin judenrein, there were an estimated 1,400 Jews still alive in Berlin at the end of the war. They were called "Uboots"-U-boats that had gone below the surface of daily life. Some were hidden by sympathetic Germans or were Jews who were blue-eyed and blond and passed as Aryans.
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The account given in your link is clearly false when you consider that that the link I provided earlier, and accepted by mainstream history:
ReplyDelete"...By the end of the week Goebbels saw no alternative but to let the prisoners go. Some thirty-five Jewish male prisoners, who had already been sent to Auschwitz, were ordered to gather their belongings and board a passenger train back to Berlin...1,700 were prisoners set free..all the intermarried Jewish men were released..."
http://www.aforcemorepowerful.org/book/excerpts/denmark
These 1700 Jews lived openly and without harassment, some 300 more then the total your source claims, and of course these were all supposedly 'u-boats.'
In Speers memoirs, he makes reference to the 3000 'prominent' Jews in Berlin all the way through the war, and only mentions that some were protected because they helped bring the Olympic games to Berlin; which would seem a very strange reason to me.
But then the Nazi's were occultists and guided by esoteric goals, not political ideals.
The whole movement, from start to finish was occult, and even the animosity towards the Jews was occult based.
A lot of what went is buried in mystery
For instance, the little known or reported fact that thousands of Tibetans (thought to have been monks) were found by Soviet troops in Berlin in full SS uniform (wearing green gloves) at the end of the war.
http://english.pravda.ru/main/2002/09/12/36496.html
Most had committed ritual suicide, including a group above the chancellery who had arranged themselves in a swastika pattern before death.
Clearly as the Tibetans were not members of the Nazi 'superman' club the symbols and uniform they adorned must have some other connotation to them. And as such we have no clear understanding of the real meaning behind much that era and its symbology, or the contortions involved.
Mainstream historians largely disregard the occult aspect for fear of ridicule and possibly because it would seem to trivialise the whole sorry episode. But occultism is the key to all of it. The NSDAP was the political, visible arm of a secret society.
We don't know what happened to those men by the end of the war. And I still don't see any reason to believe a fully functioning synagogue where Jews practiced was around in 1945.
ReplyDeleteYour link again didn't work, but I got the page to open here.
As I said, when I find the time I will try to find a credible source for that, but what do you think the Tibetans were doing in Berlin in full SS uniform at the end of the war?
ReplyDeleteAnd what does that say about the cast iron image of the Nazi 'superman' being blond-haired blue-eyed specimens. What do you think the SS uniform and its symbology represented to these Tibetans?
Sentinel, if it was true, it would be all over the internet by now, not just Stormfront.
ReplyDeleteAs for the Tibetans, yes it is interesting, but every psycho cult has their sacred cows. And Hitler was hardly blond with blue eyes either.
Sentinel:
ReplyDeleteYou really are obsessed with digging up paraphernalia regarding Jews, WW II and the Holocaust, aren't you? Yet over at my place, you clearly come across as a fully fledged Holocaust denier (or "Holocaust revisionists" as they like to call themselves).
That Hitler quoted God rather a lot is a fact. Mein Kampf is full of Christian references too.
As regards "the Nazis were Occultists", that's a gross over-simplification. The Nazis went to great lengths to justify their dreams of Lebensraum, their Aryan master race, their anti-Semitism and more, by means of concocting a pot-pourri of "ideas", "philosophies", etc etc from all walks of life, including some occultist stuff too. They nicked material from non anti-Semitic sources too and pulled them out of context to further their goals. They were certainly masters at creating illusions and making people accept them, but in many ways that's hardly a Nazi prerogative...
Besides, "occultism" is just another label: the adherents of Madame Blavatsky's theosophy didn't consider that nonsense to be occult either (but I do).
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ReplyDeleteFirst off, regarding Eitan. You two first met at my "Scott George McCombe [...]" post about that person's Holocaust "revisionism". Your opening shot to Eitan was: "Ive long been known for exposing your shitty clan club, Hasidic homeboy." Prior to that, Eitan hadn't said a derogatory word about you but after that remark you expected him to stay respectful? You're a hypocrite.
You wrote: "Thats rich coming from a man who claims he is not Jewish but spends his online time hanging out on Jewish blogs, in some strange plea for acceptence. "
which is typical of your deeply anti-Semitic mindset. Let's see, a non-Jew visits Joooooish blogs ergo said blogger must be a Jew "sycophant" or somehow wish he was Joooish himself. You're so deeply anti-Semitic that to you it's abnormal that Jews and non-Jews can get along just fine and that our ethnicity doesn't play much part in all that. With both Eitan and Bacon, I disagree very strongly on some issues, in particular Israel and the Palestinians. Why, however, you should take an interest in the Palestinian plight is a mystery to me. Aren't these people of colour deeply inferior to your White Herrenvolk?
And on the Nazis, you fancy yourself a bit as the ultimate authority, don't you?
"Their research into the paranormal is legion, and their willingness to abandon conventional science and its constraints led to many technological advances; and also some failings; whilst they were very close to obtaining the A-bomb, they could have had it much sooner were it not for the ideological rejection of "Jewish physics" [...]"
Research into the paranormal was rife around that time, just about everywhere. The Soviets continued to invest in it up too much later. Today we see a resurgence of interest in all things paranormal, "spiritual" and assorted "supernatural" nincompoopery. It's hardly a Nazi prerogative...
As regards the A-bomb, the German effort was very far from achieving success. It's true that Hitler considered nuclear physics to be "Jewish physics" and preferred to invest in rocket technology over nuclear weapons. Heisenberg didn't even manage to complete the heavy water experimental reactor (which would have been the equivalent of Fermi's Manhattan Project). Heisenberg indicated after the war (possibly to insulate himself) that he had deliberately stalled the project. By comparison the US program involved over 400,000 people (more than employed in the car industry at the time) and the German effort was tiny. They were nowhere near assembling anything explosive at all. Initial Allied assessment of the danger of the German nuclear program was based on the fact that nuclear fission was a German discovery, it seemed logical to assume they would pursue the Bomb very vigorously.
You wrote: "You obviously think I am an adherent to the NS creed, and you are wrong. I may have gravitated towards it somewhat when I was younger, but as I have studied the period intensely, lived in the country and been around many of those who participated in that era, at all levels [...]"
Nowhere have I indicated that I believed you were an NS fan. In fact it seems my assessment of you is quite correct: you definitely flirt with ideas that were part of NS ideology. You share quite a few ideas and attitudes with modern day neo-Nazi. You're a White Supremacist (oooops, sorry, "isolationist"), anti-Semite, Holocaust "revisionist" and adherent to racial theory. All these are traits found commonly in the loose configuration of various European and US neo-Nazi groups.
"There are some ideas and principles that I am attracted too, but then their are some in most ideologies."
Exactement, mon cher...
You wrote: "In many ways it was nihilistic and entirely contemptuous of much of what most of humanity holds to be sacred. And ultimately they were murderous, and no notions of Utopia can be conceived through such means."
I understand from your writings that you are a Utopianist. Clearly this "isolationism" of yours involves removing "racially undesirable influence" from your ideal White Utopia. But by what means can this be achieved other than by forced deportation or extermination? And what to do with the many "non-Whites" that resist? What to do with the many Whites, like me, who'll oppose your views? Ballot or bullet? And how to define "Whiteness"? The Nazis didn't always have an easy time defining "Jewishness" either, you know...
Like I wrote elsewhere, you're a dreamer...
Actually, no, that isn't where I first 'met' your deeply troubled friend, but the Hassidic homeboy crack was a response to the 'he knows what I am' remark.
ReplyDeleteWhile we are on the subject of hypocrisy, how does this:
" I don't need to use profanity to put him down. I believe the term "racist" is as bad as it gets."
Eitan Ha'ahzari
http://developing-your-web-presence.blogspot.com/2007/05/holocaust-denier-if-ive-ever-seen-one.html
Rank in hypocrisy, in your eyes with this:
"Full Stop...Sentinel, you cock-sucking motha-fucking ass-munching piece of white trash...I had plenty of success beating the living shit out of little pussy bitches like you back in the States and believe you me, I'd like to get my Jooooooish hands on your pussy ass. Because of your bitch ass I now need to use comment moderator so that your neo-Nazi pathetic comments won't appear on my Jewish Power site.
DEATH TO ALL SKINHEADS!!!
DEATH TO ALL NEO-NAZIS!!!
DEATH TO ALL ISLAMO-FASCISTS!!!
JEWISH POWER!!!
NEVER AGAIN!!!"
Eitan Ha'ahzari
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18090707&postID=6599961097553207358&isPopup=true
Or do different standards apply to different groups?
I wont even repeat the other disgusting sexually perverted outbursts, ask cookie for the gist of he can stomach it.
The fact is that you don't just "get along just fine" with Jewish blogs and "that our ethnicity doesn't play much part in all that"- you actively seek them out, apparently exclusively. You clearly feel some overwhelming, some abiding affinity or desire to belong with this group. Look into yourself, before attempting to look into others.
As for an authority on Nazism, yes. I have studied the period for many, many years, and I can honestly say that I know as much as any scholar, and in many cases more not having being blinkered by historical or political trends and fashions
Additionally I have spent time around many people that participated in that government and the security apparatus of it, and have a far better insight then most.
Tell me why you think the Tibetans were in Berlin, in full SS uniform in 1945? Committing ritual suicide especially?
Was it not for esoteric reasons?
As for the A-bomb and other weapons, the rush for Czechoslovakia, and not Berlin on the Allied side merits some investigation on your part if you want to climb out of ignorant hole, and learn a bit about the truth.
Just a quick aside:
" German historian has claimed in a new book presented on Monday that Nazi scientists successfully tested a tactical nuclear weapon in the last months of World War II.
Rainer Karlsch said that new research in Soviet and also Western archives, along with measurements carried out at one of the test sites, provided evidence for the existence of the weapon...
It has been common knowledge for decades that the Nazis carried out atomic experiments, but it has been widely believed they were far from developing an atomic bomb."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4348497.stm
Exactly which ideas are those that I share with neo-Nazis, and, considering you know so much about me, which part(s) of the NS programme is that I admire / agree with, in your eminently qualified opinion?
There is nothing wrong with seeking Utopia or at lest walking the path to it.
As for deportations, being assisted or forced that would depend on the individual interloper.
And this country would be given a refunda based constitution to decided on such matters / problems you envisage with these policies and the definitions required, and once passed, if you don't like it you can try and secure a majority refunda vote against it or leave.
But as I told you before, we already have a law in place with those definitions and parameters that has never been repealed and still stands and makes every Third World immigrant illegal, and therefore their grants of citizenship illegal and making all such immigration and settlement null and void.
"The Act of Settlement is a constitutional document governing the succession to the English Crown. It was passed in 1701 to amend the English Bill of Rights, following the death of the last child of the then Princess Anne. It provides that only Protestants who have not married a Roman Catholic can succeed to the English Crown. In addition, the Act specifies that it is for Parliament to determine who should succeed to the throne, not the monarch.
This act was, in many ways, the major factor leading to the union of Scotland with England to form the Kingdom of Great Britain in the Act of Union 1707, and by virtue of Article II of the Treaty of Union, which defined the succession to the British Crown, the Act of Settlement became, in effect, part of Scottish law. Therefore the whole basis of the British state as it is today is based on this Act.
The act itself states “ That after the said limitation shall take effect as aforesaid, no person born out of the Kingdoms of England, Scotland, or Ireland, or the dominions thereunto belonging (although he be naturalized or made a denizen, except such as are born of English parents) shall be capable to be of the Privy Council, or a member of either House of Parliament, or to enjoy any office or place of trust, either civil or military, or to have any grant of lands, tenements or hereditaments from the Crown, to himself or to any other or others in trust for him”.
This provision as regards hereditaments within the Act of Settlement 1701 is of immense constitutional significance for it expressly prohibits all and any immigrants from having British Citizenship and naturalised British Citizenship status being awarded to them from 1701 onwards. In effect, this provision reveals that all immigrants to Britain who do not ethnically derive from the indigenous peoples Kingdom of England, Scotland , Wales or Ireland as defined by Jus Sanguinus at the time of the 1701 act, are from 1701 onwards, incapable in law of being awarded the hereditament of British citizenship."
You may say I am a dreamer, but I am not the only one...
Sentinel:
ReplyDeleteYou understand nothing of nuclear physics whatsoever, or of the incredible effort it took to develop deliverable nuclear weapons. Tactical nuclear weapons are even more difficult to develop than classical U235 or Pu239 type A-bombs.
You didn't quite read the end of your BBC article either, now did you?
Here's another refutation of the "Nazi atomic bombs". But from a Jooooish site, so that doesn't count I suppose.
The "Nazis had a Bomb" has another variant; the "Japs were almost ready too...". Also nonsense: the Japs had indeed a small nuclear program, just like everybody else.
Try reading "The Making of the Atom Bomb".
You just love chasing chimeras...
After conveniently ignoring the other points you have no answer to, you overlook this one too: Why did the Allies find Czechoslovakia so important rather then Berlin,and why did Hitter defend prague with reserve units meant for Berlin?
ReplyDeleteYou clearly don't know, so do yourself a favour and educate yourself a bit- you cant expect me to do it all for you.
BTW are you a nuclear physicist now, too?
Sentinel:
ReplyDeleteFrom: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4348497.stm (your source):
"The important thing in my book is the finding that the Germans had an atomic reactor near Berlin which was running for a short while, perhaps some days or weeks,"
That's an absurd assertion if you understand anything about early nuclear research and how incredibly hard it was to develop the materials and technology for weaponised U235 and Pu239. And a few "days or weeks" would never yield enough materials either.
Where were the enrichment facilities to feed the plant with EU (presumably used to produce Pu239 from U238, as the US program did with its Hanford reactors)? The Pu239 separation plant to chemically separate Pu239 from U and fission products? The metallurgical labs (Pu239 has an incredibly complex metallurgy)? The bomb-core moulding plant? All this, together with the paper trail and personnel just vanished into thin air, did it? The Soviets (or the Allies or both) managed to whisk it all away without leaving a trace? It's an absurd claim.
A tactical (sub-kiloton) weapon would require HEU U235 (not Pu239), posing the same problem: where were the enrichment plants to reach 80 - 95% U235 enrichment? How come nothing was found?
Not to mention the fact that building and maintaining such an infrastructure would be very difficult in a war zone...
That would then leave the possibility of a dirty bomb. That would also require some kind of a nuclear reactor to be up and running, to provide the radioisotopes. A dirty bomb would be of great use to terrorists but it's fairly useless in conventional warfare, because in its immediate effects it's hardly more lethal than an equivalent clean bomb.
The "sources" and documents Karlsch mentioned would be very easy to misinterpret by someone who doesn't know his arse from his elbow when it comes to nuclear technology.
This is a tall story by someone who's either naive, incompetent, seeking attention or a combination of these factors.
As I said before, for a comprehensive review of the US nuclear program, I warmly suggest The Making of the Atomic Bomb. It deals also with post-war US research into the German program.