October 21, 2007

Fisking White Supremacist John De Nugent (Da Nudnick)

Note: This was also published by me on Judeophobe Watch.
The No More Wars For Israel Conference was advertised on every Joooo paranoid site that I know. It was to take place October 12th-14th. Apparently, it did but they were forced to change venues because normal people don't tend to like to associate themselves with Joooo hating paranoid imbeciles. It seems Ron Paul and Jimmy Carter who did get open invitations, had better things to do. LMAO.

Lets see, you advertise an event for months, and you get 10 people brave enough to show how retarded they are to march. Sounds like a huge success to me:) A success is the propaganda the white supremacists are trying to peddle on the internet. Aren't they precious. They are so infantile, they are almost precious, in a demonic sort of sense.

I know Paranoid Putrid Grime (Patrick Grimm) showed up there, but I have yet to verify the picture below is him. But I picture him as looking this way. Whoever it is, the guy looks like a loner, void of life and humor, who chain smokes Camel cigarettes while blaming Joooos for his sorry pathetic lot in life.

Check out these imbeciles below. A couple of these guys must have thought they were going to a Colonel Sanders look-a-like contest.

Now for the real funny part. It seems that whatever was said on Sunday, really bothered Mark Glenn (who is half Lebanese and half whitey). It looks to me like the Vanguard Group of white supremacists may have forgot they were supposed to be in bed with the Muslims during this conference. I decided to copy the letter that PC Apostate put on his website from chief Vanguard Joooo paranoid imbecile, John de Nudnick (Nugent) and of course, add my comments:)

Dear Mark,

This email is in response to your email (below) blasting me, and another by Wendy Campbell blasting white nationists as "unsavory characters" -- after we made this conference happen.
It doesn't matter that you made it happen. You are unsavory characters. Live with it. I can't believe I agree with Mark Glenn on something:)

The "No More Wars for Israel" conference, with our white nationist help, survived being pitched out of our hotel. Both days on the program were held, and with my help it went out on Internet radio VNN and soon four key speeches from the conference will go out on YouTube. Some will say that the speeches I, Margaret Huffsticker and Stan Hess gave were very important events. One can judge this when the YouTube videos go up tomorrow.
Some may say that, but most will say you are a Joooo paranoid imbecile.

First, whatever your ironic remarks, my legal name is John de Nugent. I legally changed it from John Nugent in 2004. De Nugent was the original family name for centuries. (Google “Gilbert de Nugent.”)
Nah, your real name from now on is John de Nudnick.

Secondly, this conference was never yours with which to do exactly as you pleased. The conference was Joe Fields’ from the beginning a year ago, and only after he was defamed and slandered by some who apparently hoped to prevent it from taking place, did you “come on board ship” as a second person organizing the conference. It has always been a duumvirate, a rule of two men. But I think you forgot that. If you object to us white nationists, for fear of the Jews and what they would say, you should have withdrawn from the conference as you threatened to do in an email. Instead, you stayed and then complained throughout.
Nah, Marky didn't care about what Joooos would say. He never does. He cares what the majority of Americans say about people who are represented by message boards (on VNN) full of people calling blacks "nigger" every chance they get.

Thirdly, Willis Carto, who runs your newspaper columns,and Joe Fields are white nationists just as I am. And without us white nationists, there would have been no conference. Without our money, our mailing lists, our activists and our speakers the conference would have collapsed.
Without you de Nudnick, they might have only had two people marching instead of 10. Pat yourself on the back.

And without me, there would have been no Sunday session location at all, and no chairs or food either for the crowd at the nine-hour-long (and wonderful) Sunday session, after Jew pressure drove us into that industrial park and its ballroom, with no restaurants nearby. I organized the massive “17-pizza expedition,” hustling around personally, taking pizza orders and collecting funds -- and please assure Hesham Tillawi there was no Pepperoni Pizza Plot to bring back pork-containing pepperoni!
This is fricken hilarious stuff. You can't make this stuff up.

Fourthly, without us white nationists, you would have gotten no publicity at all. The major media ignored the conference -- as I knew they would, based on 30 years of my own anti-Zionist experience, which you do not have.
Hahahaha. I'm cracking up now.

Now I note that your friend Wendy Campbell, who spoke at the conference and attended along with her very Jewish-named, Jewish-acting and Jewish-looking friend Mark Green, has now put out her own "for fear of the Jews" reference to us white nationists at the conference as "unsavory characters."
Yeah, I'm sure Mark Green is a Joooo. There is a Joooo under your bed too:)

In fact, she did so several times, and when drunk at the hospitality suite she also reiterated to one and all how much she despises us white nationists.
Why should you be shocked that people hate you? Buy a clue. Sounds like you are just pissed because she was drunk and you couldn't get her tongue down your throat.

My question is this: Are white nationists unsavory for you, too? I note that you received a check for $3,000 from Willis Carto for the conference. I assume his money was not unsavory.
Maybe Marky is using you. Maybe Marky is a Joooo too. HAHAHAHAHA

I further note that you, with Lebanese ancestry, support the Lebanese and other Arabic peoples. Do we have your permission to likewise support our European and European-American peoples? Or is only OUR nationism as whites "unsavory," but yours is okay?
You don't support Marky Glenn being a mud. C'mon, be honest. His parents got together because of the Joooos according to you. The Joooos made it possible for whitey to marry non whites. Marky is on to you. You don't like him as much as he doesn't like you.

Fifthly, I proposed to you on October 8th in response to your complaints (see my email below!) that we white nationists -- who were the bulk of the attendees and supporters -- hold a separate conference on Sunday -- and that the "No More Wars for Israel" conference distinctly end on Saturday night.
Yeah, but that wasn't the original deal. You welshed. Maybe you are a Joooo too.

You rejected my common-sense proposal. Why? In response to your attack, my proposal is to be found below.
Again, Marky knew that certain blacks and Arabs who support his cause were very aware of who you are and what you represent.

Even though you did not even answer my email, I still tailored my speech, and Stan Hess his, to your need for ethnic inclusivity. Once again, we whites have bent over backward to accommodate others.
It must be hard for you to piggyback the Muslims who hate Jews. Bending over backwards sounds very painful.

----------------our opening remarks on YouTube videos

Here is the footage (still raw and unedited) of the first third of my and Margaret Huffstickler's speeches. (The full versions should be up tomorrow of all four final speeches -- mine, Margaret's, Stan Hess' and Joe Fields' -- on YouTube.)

John de Nugent's speech video – raw footage of first third:
NOT “white supremacist” in tone but inclusive, just as I pledged to you, Mark.
de Nudnick, I have nothing against gays, but you have to be gay. It is so apparent.
I love the juvenile analogy: People are born insane, here is an insane brain, this is proof that all Joooos are born insane. What a riot. Oh, and have you ever been arrested at a truck stop washroom in your life, you must have.

Margaret Huffstickler's speech video – raw footage of first third;
NOT “white supremacist” in tone but inclusive, as I promised you, Mark Glenn.

She is just as vile looking on the outside as she is on the inside. Did she really say the German people of World War 2 are just like the Palestinians....classic. Haha. Oh, and of course, Jews were never even in Europe so how could they have died in the Holocaust. And she expects anyone other than a Joooo paranoid imbecile to take her serious.

The conference succeeded despite Jewish machinations -- to a huge extent because of the hard work of white nationists.

Joe Fields, who originated the conference, and who did an enormous amount of work for it, would not let you remove white nationists from the speakers list. Margaret Huffstickler, I and Stan Hess were among the first ones to commit to Joe's conference, long before you were in the picture, and that was back when he was still being actively defamed and character-assassinated. We stand by our friends, Mark.
It isn't character assassination, it is the truth. Mark was just being nice.

I, Margaret Huffstickler and Stan Hess kept our word that I gave to you, and gave speeches at the conference -- which you had already walked out of -- that were multiracial in their appeal and were extremely well-received. I praised Muslim and Arabic peoples in the very beginning of my remarks, and saluted attendees of African-American heritage. I bent over backward to accommodate your demands.
There you go with the bending over backwards stuff. Why is that bending? Either you sincerely mean it or you don't. By bending over backwards, you really mean "being deceitful."

But here is the greater context:

First, Israel -- the miscreant targeted by this conference -- is all Jews in the world. The “State of Israel” is just one part of Israel, one political entity and segment, because Israel is the Jewish people everywhere. The most sacred Jewish prayer on the High Holy Days is “Hear, O Israel: the Lord thy god is one God.” All Jews are thus Israel, all Jews are self-proclaimed Israelites, and my speech addressed that entire Israel.
I don't think Marky disagrees with you there. Are atheist Jews who don't believe in God part of all of Israel too? It is a bit confusing to me.

Secondly, we white nationists have all marched for the Palestinians, written articles for the oppressed Arabs and I myself have even been a member of the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee and sent them money. As a white man, I have supported your people.
But is there any reciprocity? Any Arab support for us whites? We whites are truly the Palestinians of North America and Europe. We are crushed in our own homelands, forbidden to speak, ethnically cleansed from the streets of our cities, suburbs, towns and villages everywhere, dying out through a Jew-promoted depression of our birth rate, through abortion, homosexuality, white guilt and the general fear whites have that their kids will have no future as whites -- or can be happy, or be raised to be well-behaved in a Jewish cultural cesspool. Your Arabic peoples are at least not dying out; only we whites are.
Dude, didn't the white man ethnically clean the Native Indians and take their land.
And isn't Marky Glenn helping kill off your white people. He is a mud, and has lots of mud kiddies now, and many will marry whites. Hahaha. Oh yeah, I forgot that the Joooos made it possible for Marky Glenn's parents to marry. (I'm cracking up again)

All this is the work of the same Jew who oppresses and commits genocide on your people. Yet for fear of the Jews you condemn me, your staunch ally who helped save this conference to which your name was attached.
Marky doesn't fear Joooos. Try another excuse.

The Dalai Lama just was honored at the White House and said: "If things do not change, we Tibetans will become an insignificant minority in our own country." That is what we whites face in every single white country -- that the Jews are slowly killing us off psychologically -- and soon, as in South Africa and as the Bolsheviks did in Russia to the tune of 40 million, they will begin killing us off physically as individuals and then en masse, by the millions. We are facing genocide. We are the Palestinians of our own homelands. Do you, Mark, care about US -- as we care about YOU?
Sounds like you need a KleenX to wipe tears from your eyes. Oh, and you care about the Palestinians only because they have the same enemy as you. You don't give a rats ass about them. Who are you kidding. Oh, and I hope you read this, and I kill you off a little more "psychologically," you pathetic imbecile.

Or do we whites exist only as paying fodder and attendee fodder for your apparent dream of an Arab-agenda conference – which the Jewsmedia, predictably, did not cover in any case?
Nobody covered it. Not even Al Jazeera.

As a very fine young white nationist, Evan Thomas, who attended the AFP/TBR conference last year, said to me: “I would like to see some reciprocity from the Arabic side for our support of the Arabs.”
Many of the Muslims that you love want to have a mosque on every street corner in the USA, doncha know?

Now, as you know, the most famous white nationist in the world is currently David Duke, and President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran both invited him to Teheran for the Holocaust revisionist conference, and then publicly shook hands with him, and met also privately with him for several hours.

Duke's remarks have been carried by the Iranian news media, and also by Syrian radio and TV. Are you a wiser figure than President Ahmadinejad of Iran or President Assad of Syria?
Yeah, you two with the people who gobbled up the 17 pizzas are as big as Iran and Syria put together....hee hee hee.

For fear of the Jews, you tell me that we white nationists may not speak -- just support "my" conference to the hilt. And there you are forgetting again: without Joe and Willis and others such as I and Stan Hess, there would have been no conference, and without me there would have been no second day at all.
You da man. It doesn't mean you aren't a puke, just because you think you were responsible for the conference to keep going.

Don’t you see that you are unconsciously echoing the Jews themselves? You say that white nationists shall have no voice -- just pay up, shut up, and support other races in their liberation struggle. As usual.
Yep. Roses are red, violets are bluish, this whole fricken world, has already turned Jooooish.

That mentality ended at this conference. And the best speeches, by general consent, were by us white nationists and the black nationists, especially by “Sister Mickie” (Joadiah Hunter). Of course, you walked out and missed them all.
Did you fantasize bout doin da sista?, or maybe da sista's bro.

The whole Sunday session -- half the conference -- was saved, frankly, by me getting that ballroom with the help of another white nationist from VNN, Mark Knop. (By the way, VNN is not a group but “Vanguard News Network.” They had every legitimate right to cover the conference -- as a news and discussion organization.)
Again, it doesn't matter, you are still a puke, and even Mark (the puke) Glenn knows it.

I spent about $40 on cell phone calls to various hotels and meeting places to save the conference, and $100 myself on chairs and then on their removal afterward. I and Margaret have lost about $1,500, sacrificed for the good of this conference -- because Joe Fields and Mike Piper both asked, just days before the conference, that we do come out and speak.
You lost money? Where? Did you hit the race tracks, or you don't like race tracks because they have the word "race" in it?

The Jews were going to try to shut down and to blast the conference no matter who the speakers were, because:
--one, you wrote a book No Beauty in the Beast, ripping the Jews to shreds (and a great book it is!);
Humankind tried to shut down the conference. Not just the Joooos (still I see no evidence it was the Joooos) Curtis Shmaynard of Chris Wombat commented in their Joooo paranoid way that cops were Zionists in disguise. Yeah, I really read that on the PC Apostate web site. Unbelievable!

--two, you write for Willis Carto publications such as American Free Press AND The Barnes Review, and attended Willis' AFP/Barnes Review conference last year (where you also bravely spoke up against Neturei Karta hypocrisy about the Talmud);
Marky hates all Joooos just like you, he just wants a Mosque on every street corner on this planet, and you and I don't.

--and three, Joe Fields was involved from the get-go.

This conference had "white nationist" and "anti-Jewish" written all over it from the beginning.
It was supposed to be anti-Jooooish. What word of No More Wars For Israel don't you understand?

Don't blame us for what the Jews do TO us. And I am surprised that you, a Christian, Mark, would call me (below) an ”SOB.” We white people built this country, and without us whites in America and Russia rising again your Arab cause will never succeed. The Arabs outnumber the Israelis over 40 to 1 and still Israel exists. You will also see how the coming Chinese superpower allies itself more and more openly with the Jews.
Ah, this makes me so sad:) I'm not sure Mark is a Christian though. I think he might be a Muslim pretending to be a Christian. Lots of internet circus freaks do this. They use anglo names and pretend to be whitey.

The only powerful group that can and will stop the Jews is the people of European heritage, with their one billion population, their immense wealth, their creative genius and their matchless courage, all proved over the course of thousands of years of great achievements, and shown most of all by Germany.
Most white people like Joooos, but most importantly, they laugh at paranoid freaks like you.

Mark, we whites do not exist any more as objects for others to use, whether to be used by allies or by enemies; that is over.
Oh c'mon now. It is OK for you to use the Muslims, but they can't use you?

We have our own proud identity and we will prevail. Again, you should have accepted my polite, respectful and well thought-out proposal to end the "merely anti-Zionist" conference on Saturday evening -- and make a separate conference on Sunday with a different name, different signs at the podium, a different moderator and different speakers. You did not even respond to my email. And now you complain.
You wanted to change midway through. That is not ethical. Don't you white supremacists have any ethics?

Next time you can have your own conference, which will be the umpteenth conference without any impact of the peaceniks and the Arab-Americans, and which the Jewsmedia will ignore, downplay or defame. You saw yourself a few months ago how pitifully small the Arab-American protest on the Mall in Washington was. Your Arab-Americans need us whites to join you. But not as Generic Americans, as “white, non-Hispanics”; we are European-Americans, we are proud, and with the help of my leadership we are now organizing.
Oh, and this one was any better than a Mall protest? Hahahahaha

I marched just a few weeks ago here in Washington in another anti-war rally, and the media did not even mention it. We marched by our thousands through empty streets, past empty government buildings, with only Mexican construction workers looking on in blasé incomprehension. Not a word in the Washington com-Post. 
Keep marching dude maybe someone will eventually notice. HAHAHAHAHA

And that is all the publicity – zip, nada, nothing – your vision of a "No More Wars for Israel” conference would have gotten without us white nationists. Your dream of CNN coming to cover you was unrealistic from the start. It is clear that, after only a few years in the anti-Zionist cause, you lack experience of how things really operate in the Jew-wars. The Jews always defame -- or they ignore, unless they decide to sabotage, railroad and assassinate. And now I am plunging – politically, directly -- into that hell for all of us, with you taking potshots from the side, for fear of the Jews.
Dude, I thought this whole thing was organized by white supremacists, now you are blaming Mark's inexperience on the fact the media missed it. Couldn't your 30 YEARS OF ANTI-ZIONIST KNOWLEDGE come in handy at all?????? You are now admitting that you were freeloading Mark's event. Do you realize how stupid this makes you for your other comments? All this does is prove that you can't accept responsibility when things fail. You invent scapegoats, usually the Joooos but in this case Mark Glenn.

The real problem was that you -- who are half-white through your father but favor only your Arabic side -- and Joe Fields, who is all-white and is a white nationist, have two very different agendas. I solved that problem of the two agendas with my proposal for two different conferences, and I saved the Sunday session by getting the ballroom, food and chairs. And, through YouTube, and my camera people, NMWFI conference speeches will go out on the Internet to thousands and perhaps some day, to millions.
Maybe even billions.

Without my help, and help from other white nationists such as my friend Pete Papaheraklis, who talked with his fellow Greeks to get the church for Saturday's session, the Jews would be chortling today online about how they “shut us down.” Well, they didn't, Mark. We beat them.
Hesham Tellawi wanted to cancel the whole conference. Joe Fields said no. He took a firm stand. We showed backbone. We white nationists were right; the conference went on; and the Jews failed.
Most Joooos don't even know there was a conference, and they don't care that there was. "The Jews failed" ???????? At what? No evidence the Joooos tried to shut it down. I didn't get any notification of the event from Organized Jewry Headquarters either. Nobody gave a crap except for maybe a few.

Rather than rip into allies, such as me and Joe, you should rip into the Jews who made us all miserable, and always will until we prevail through united struggle. I called them in my speech fearlessly what they are, the Eternal Jew. And the Jew’s main goal is self-censorship, that we censor ourselves out of fear.
I'm glad you are miserable. The reason you feel censored is because you have no audience. It is because humanity has outgrown your insanity and childish mentality.
BTW, lots of people on this planet don't feel miserable. Maybe you just need a good anti-depressant.

Mark, you are, unconsciously, taking the Jewish position, which is that white nationists should have no right to speak -- "for fear of the Jews."
It is common humanity that realizes your cause is putrid and vile. It is common of most humans, not only Joooos.

But as I said in my speech -- and it, Margaret's speech, Stan Hess's and Joe Fields’ are all going up tomorrow on YouTube -- without the white giant arising from his slumber, your Arabic world is also doomed. We white nationists are the key to saving both our and your people. And we white nationists will arouse our sleeping white brothers -- one billion white people -- against our common foe, the monster of Zionism. Once you simmer down, you will probably reflect on the continuing need for a white-Arabic/Muslim strategic alliance of reason. But the alliance cannot be one-way.

We were friends, and I intensely admired your courage and your excellent writings, and we have exchanged many friendly emails. I hope we can again be friends, or at least stay allies. But if you attack white nationists, you are biting the hand that feeds you -- and forgetting what I said in my speech: The white nationist movement is the only hope for the world’s liberation from the enemy of all peoples and races, Talmudic Zionism.

Love and kisses

John de Nugent

P.S. I am going to post my version of events on Stormfront, VNN, Liberty Forum and on my own website as soon as it goes up. I hope that I will not need to fire back any further. After all, Mark Glenn, you did hundreds of hours of great work for this conference, and I thank you for all your work and all your many important sacrifices of time, money, anguish and sleep. Join the crowd..... You have now gotten your "Purple Heart" as I did 30 years ago when I was nearly murdered in the Marines, nearly thrown over a warship at night, for my stance.
I'd love to hear the real story behind your near death experience.

I was planning, Mark, to only say that “some Arab-Americans walked out in protest against VNN radio carrying the conference live.” I was not planning to write in anger against you for attacking me and calling me an “SOB” in the email below.
SOB is just Marky being polite.

As for Hesham Tillawi, whom I have always appreciated, he needs to be careful what speculation he spreads. When I collected money for the rent on the ballroom, I had to put $42 of my own money in the kitty to get the $500 together to pay for the ballroom where you and he sat and enjoyed the speeches -- on the chairs and at the venue I made possible. It was also my own appeal by phone Saturday to my own supporter in Canada that got us the first $500 toward the total $1,000 ballroom bill. Remember, had I and my fellow white nationists not pitched in, the ADL and Morris Dees would be crowing today: "The conference by the Jew-hating Lebanese-American Mark Glenn was shut down when every hotel refused to take them in." That is the gloating remark I helped prevent, which also made you look good. They will always defame you, Mark, but they can never say your conference failed to come off.
$42 bucks of your own money. I thought it was a Jooooish trait to county your pennies like that. Are you sure you aren't a Joooo Mr. da Nudnick?, I'll ask again.

In any case, by walking out on the conference Sunday night, you showed successfully to one and all that you do not support the cause of white survival and that you distance yourself from our Cause -- to reduce heat on you from the Jews. You had your successful two-day conference AND you had your walkout to boot to show you do not support us, though we support you. Let's keep on, however, as allies, despite this inevitable friction between your view and ours -- and your refusal to permit two separate conferences to go ahead, which would have met all your own demands.
Man oh man, the whining by you is pathetic. You sound like a jilted lover.

I just now saw that you have issued a statement, dated October 19, acceding to my pre-conference proposal from October 8, recognizing the existence of two separate conferences. As far as I am concerned, your statement saying there were two separate conferences should therefore end our hostilities -- for the sake of the common anti-Zionist cause. And I congratulate you for this wise move. We are two different armies, marching separately, but let us both strike incessantly the hate-filled foe of all mankind, whom the New Testament calls “the synagogue of Satan.”

Lets get something straight, it is apparent to every intelligent on this planet who the real haters are no matter how much you want to spin it.

Marky Glenn's updated statement:

Statement from the Crescent And Cross Solidarity Movement Concerning Last Weekend's 'No More Wars For Israel' Conference


The No More Wars For Israel conference wrapped up its two-day event in Irvine, California with amazing success. Many activists with diverse orientation from around the US, Canada, and Australia attended the conference originally scheduled to take place at the Marriott Hotel in Irvine but then forced to move to another venue as a result of the hotel canceling the event for what organizers felt was political pressure by the ADL and other pro-Zionist/anti-free speech groups.
Sounds like a real success Marky. Go beat yourself on the chest some more like your ally da Nudnick.

More pictures of Joooo paranoid imbeciles taken at the conference.


  1. They call it a conference now?

    You meant Patrick Grimm, right? Who in the picture do you think he is?

    I feel for Carter and Paul: there is no way they are deserving of an open invitation by these slimeballs. Yet some will hold it against them.

    I might link to this...

  2. I keep thinking his name is Peter, I made the correction and also corrected the direction of where to look for his picture.

    As for Paul, he is embraced by David Duke and the losers at VNN and Stormfront. He has become the Jew haters candidate, and I don't think Paul has commented on that yet, but I'm sure he is aware because lots has been written about this.

  3. You mean the guy (Grimm) who's bottom centre and top right in the collage? By his writings I thought of a twenty-something (no, honest!) but this guy is over fifty! Guess old habits die hard...

    As regards Ron Paul, clearly that "support" from Duke et al. stems from his statement on the Israel lobby and some weird stuff about blacks. He's also stated that US foreign policy invites US targeted terrorism. The geniuses from the VNN probably equate that with "no more wars for Israel".

    Guess he should speak out against that kind of support but then, who knows and takes the VNN seriously? I wouldn't have know of the VNN if it hadn't been for Sentinel (whose blog has apparently gone dormant - don't forget to wave!), when one of his White Brethren invited him to come and march against... Caucasophobia! March, Brothers, march!

  4. I think there was also a CAIR connection (do you guys have CAIR in Canada?) to this "conference", but then CAIR was embarrassed when word got out that they helped and disavowed knowledge of who these people were. I wonder if those outside the US are aware of how many people hold to such extreme Jew-hating here in the US, many, many people--just they are more underground and not at conferences (though some, particularly one, has a TV show in around 300 stations nationwide).

  5. p.s., gert, Carter is more subtle, but uses the same "Christian Identity" language and allusions of those here. Here they refer to "mud" people (a Christian Identity term), and Carter doesn't use that, but he definitely in at least 2 books including Palestine Peace not Apartheid, alludes to the Christian Identity Serpent Seed doctrine right up front by his twisted scripture reference to Cain before the title page(and also on p19 in this PPNA). IDers, including Aryan Nations, know the allusion, believe me, it's code.

  6. Orde:

    "I think there was also a CAIR connection (do you guys have CAIR in Canada?) to this "conference", but then CAIR was embarrassed when word got out that they helped and disavowed knowledge of who these people were."

    You think, you think.... but really you're just conjecturing without the slightest bit of evidence.

    "IDers, including Aryan Nations, know the allusion, believe me, it's code."

    What you should do matey, is find a decent object of study. A natural science for instance. You'd soon learn what hard evidence means and stop referring to crypto-bullshit about "codes".

  7. gert,
    Don't you believe that subcultures, particularly criminals, have language unique to their group, use code? It's my area of expertise, but hey, remain in the dark, and so angry, what a shame.

  8. Sorry gert, for losing my patience there with you, but really, you can do a little research yourself, come on. Anyway, here in the US we're crawling with Christian Identity/Aryan/neo-nazis, not to mention those that are one step away from them with the appearance of legitimacy. Here are safe links (as opposed to the white supremacist sites), the first supporting what I'd heard about CAIR in the conference--CAIR guy replies in comment #2, and the second link is to an article that I offer just as an illustration of the Christian Identity/Aryan "code" language, namely what I pointed out, beaj's posted article's use of "mud" to refer to mud people and the allusion by IDers and Carter to the seed of Cain, a/k/a serpent seed theory.

    (obviously, better articles are on the white supremacist sites, but they screw with your computer)

  9. Orde:

    I'm beginning to see why when I called you an imbecile Beaj decided to kind of come to your rescue. Because anyone who criticises CAIR must be good in Beaj's deeply Arabophobic books. Clearly, he'll even make an exception for a Creationist like you.

    Your connecting Carter with these unsavoury characters speaks rather volumes about your own very typically US hatred of Carter, routinely described as the worst US president ever. The four most hated presidents/presidential wannabes are Carter, Gore, Clinton and Clinton, probably more or less in that order too.

    And Carter, who, wrongly in my opinion, uses the term Apartheid in the Israel context, must be branded anything possible, including of course anti-Semite. As regards that "Apartheid", there is unfortunately no shortage of Israelis and their slavish far right US supporters that would advocate precisely that. See for example Benny Elon's plan - Right Road to Peace, backed by Sam Brownback.

    Carter has also tirelessly worked for a two-state solution. Now, we can't have that now, can we? All this pandering to the teeerroooorriiiists? And Mooooslems at that... Tss... tss...

    That's were (and only where) your idiotic attempt at connecting Carter with this bunch of anti-Semitic nobodies comes from.

    As regards my anger? There isn't any. I have imbeciles like you for breakfast, any day, every day.

    Back to Sunday school with you...

  10. Brr... it seems that your knowledge of these nice folks is really encyclopedic, BEAJ. How do you manage without vomiting now and then, I wonder?


  11. gert,
    "Two-state solution" - oxymoron.

    Jimmy Israel-is-"worse than Rwanda"-"worse than South Africa" Carter advocates for terrorists.

  12. Orde:

    You're an Ultra Far Right Moron.

  13. gert, Well, that's about as opposite as you can get --I'm a target of the Ultra Right, not a member of it. Let me break it down for you: the ultra right (Patrick Buchanan and beyond) actually is in convergence with the ultra left (Code Pink, etc) and the jihadists when it comes to Israel--case in point, the Crescent and Cross group cited in this article, or the racist right books sold in Islamic Centers, such as More_in_Common_than_You_Thnk. On the topic of the convergence of Ultra Right w/Islam, George Michael's written: The_Enemy_of_My_Enemy:_The_Alarming_Convergence_of_Militant_Islam_and_the_Extreme_Right.

    I consider myself in the center politically, moderately right of center theologically--the "Ultra" Right hates Israel and Jews, they are semi-underground.

  14. Here's a few seconds from a safe website (carm) of an audio clip, gert, as an example of how an Ultra Right Christian Identity confronts a Bible believer--with a 9mm!

  15. Hi,

    I'm not writing this to respond to anything you have written. I am searching for Margaret Huffstickler (if she happens to be the daughter of Albert Huffstickler) who died in Feb of 2002. Just recently a box, with what I presume to be an urn inside, was left on my front porch. There was also a folded letter and rope (which looks to have been used to tie the once unfolded letter around the top of the "urn"). The reason I believe it to be an urn is because the letter had a piece of writing called The Funeral in it with directions on how he'd want his ashes scattered upon his death. Research I've done online shows that he died in Feb 2002. The date on the letter was April 20 1992. At this point, I'm just trying to find someone might know anything about this. I just rent the home I live in and have only lived here 2 years. Anyway, if you have contact with Margaret, and if this is even her father, please pass this on to her, with my email tofer1982@gmail.com.


  16. I don't know if you're still keeping tabs on de Nutjob, but just in case: I spent five years as a Marine, and one sentence into his 'bio' it was obvious that 95% of his military claims are a blatant crock of shit. If it hasn't been done already, and you are interested I can post a pretty detailed rebuttal.

    I'm only just learning about him after I somehow stumbled across his batshit insane website. One of the portals features the EGA and "Once a Marine, always a Marine.". They, along with some other Marine icons, were recently trademarked by the USMC. This was primarily done to have a say on what the logos get slapped on (it also funds Marine morale and family support organizations.). The copyright office doesn't search for improper usage by raving racist lunatics, and relies on people notifying them about possible misuse.

    They were pretty shocked at how he'd used it, and will be sending him some cease and dissis paperwork. So if you find other nutjobs slapping logos and quotes on their sites then be sure to email the branch in question. Racists aren't welcome in the military, so at the very least we can strip away the meager credibility they feel it gives them.