ALEXGATOR1: PORTRAIT OF AN ANTI-SEMITIC ATHEIST

Possible picture of the Joooo obsessed assmonkey named Alex.

Ok, I made my Atheist case for Israel. Another blogger, Meme Escape really liked it and linked my post on her blog(she has lived in Israel and her fascinating story is available on her blog). In her comment section she stated: "Take a look at Nogod.com. It’s the friggin’ American Atheists official blog and there’s a thread about the I/P conflict that is little more than Jew/Israeli bashing. It’s sad that atheists – who pride themselves on evidence and critical thinking – bit the bait hook, line and sinker."

This didn't shock me, but I went over to investigate and sure enough, the rhetoric was flying.

But my focus is on one imbecile over there ALEXGATOR1. I had him pegged from his first post as a Jew obsessed twerp.

Here are some of his comments on a story about Israel warning about a new axis of terror:

"Is there any way to stop this from happening?"

"Yeah, the Zionist jews can get the fuck out of Palestine. If I lived under a racist apartheid system where human rights violations of the worst kind were part of my everyday life I might go nuts and start blowing people up too.
I don't approve of what the terrorist did but I can imagine what it must be like to live under these conditions and this level of utter frustration and extreme circumstances can make people resort to extreme tactics.
Alex."

Yep, he is a real thinking man's man that Alex is he is.

"What really bothers me is that the American media is si blatantly pro israel and never really shows the palestinian childrens bodies riddled with IDF bullets or the old Palestinian women being evicted from their homes just before the israeli bulldozers raze her home to the ground. The alternative media in the USA and the British media (BBC, Sky News, The Times) take a more neutral israeli stance and report the jewish atrocities towards the arabs which is why Europeans have a more balanced and realistic idea of what the conflict is all about. This has the ADL wringing it's hands about the new wave of "anti-semitism" in Europe which is in fact just a normal response to the crimes of israel.
Alex."

Notice how this rhetorical retard capitalizes Palestinian, American, British, and Europeans, but doesn't capitalize Jewish or Israel. Must be have failed English or he just doesn't like Jews.

"The bottom line is that the unrest in the Middle East is all about a faith based country established by a land grab entrenched in the idea of jewish supremacy and specialness. There will never be peace in the Middle East until the Palestinians have their own state but of course the zionist jews and xians will fight this tooth and claw to support their greed and superstitious interests. Religion will be the cause of WWIII and the USA and the UK will be right there to defend poor little victimized israel. I for one don't want to see the world blown up because a small group of people have an arrogant sense of supernatural entitelment to a patch of shitty desert real estate.
Alex."

Aww, poor Alex doesn't like the Israelis because of the Joooooooooooooooooooooos.

"Lya,
Yes israel is evil and I have spent a lot of time educating myself about the conflict both in university and on my own so please don't assume that I don't want to learn. If I formed my opinions by being spoon fed what the American press reported then I would hate "them muz-lem terr'ists who blow up the Holy Land". What else but evil could you call a government who treats the Palestinians the way that israel does? Second class citizenship, inability to own property, to marry israeli citizens, to vote, and restriction of movement not to mention the fact that the IDF routinley murders innocent Palestinian children who wander into sensitive areas or raze to the ground the homes and orchards and groves (livelihood) of Palestinians? "Israel" is one of the worst abusers of human rights and the israeli lobby has too much influence over US foreign policy. Why do you think we went to war in Iraq? It had nothing to do with spreading democracy and everything to do with securing oil and israeli security concerns. This is not conspiracy theory it is fact for anyone to see which has recently been given support by Harvard's JFK School of Government (http://ksgnotes1.harvard.edu/Research/wpaper.nsf/rwp/RWP06-011) Israelis are no better than Nazis.
Alex.
"

Alex, why don't you just say that you hate kikes. I know you want to. Why are you being such a coward.

Atheist Jew "Alex, you are a retard. Plain and simple"

"Can you say "argumentum ad hominem"?

I am just someone who sees through the lies and exaggerations of the zionists, both jew and xian, and doesn't bow down at the altar of holocaust fundamentalism. Jews are not entitled to inflict misery on the Palestinians just becasue jews have suffered historically. Two wrongs does not a right make my friend.
Alex."


Arguing ad hominen? But wait, didn't you just call Israelis Nazis? Or was that your clone. Oh yes, and nice rhetoric. Where did you get your education? David Duke U?

This one is a classic, Alex is asking me how I can be an Atheist Jew, but he is accusing me of using my "Jewish specialness," anti-semites are so friggen retarded:

"How can you be a jew and an atheist at the same time anyway? On your own website you claim that anyone whose mother is jewish or who converts is a jew. Why does the former make one a jew? religious tradition? if so then as an atheist I would think that that would cancel out your jewishness. If my mother was Irish and catholic does that make me a catholic or just Irish even if I'm an atheist? Can I be a muslim-atheist? or a baptist-atheist? its an oxymoron.
I have asked many people the following question but so far no one has been able to tell me why being a jew is both a religion and an ethnicity when it doesn't work this way for anyone else. Just another instance of jewishness specialness? I'm really curious and so far I have not received a secular answer that satisfies me.
"

I called him an anti-semite, and instead of owning up to it, this was his cowardly predictable reply:

"So predictable atheist jew. Throwing around the term anti-semite at anyone who dares criticize israel or israeli policy. Well my kosher friend it doesn't work on me becasue as I told you I do not bow down to the pressure or the proganda of the holocaust industry or holocaust fundamentalism. I don't buy into the story of how the poor jews have been so oppressed and hated throughout history. So what? Join the fucking club. Almost any group of humans has been the target of a holocaust or genocide at one time or another and I refuse to give jewish suffering more importance than anyone elses. Jews are not special. Jews are not chosen. Jews are not above criticism. Jews are the same as everyone else except maybe for an unending sense of god given arrogance.
Take your sense of self importance and child like whining somewhere else where people care or pay attention-like maybe the ADL website.
Alex."

OK, and one more thing, I did a quick internet search of his ID along with the word Jew and found this gem on a David Irving thread:

"No it wouldn't make it any less horrible but it would expose the historical lies perpetuated by those who wish to maximize israeli support and gain the most sympathy for jews by proposing that six million died instead of the more probable figure of just under a million. Even one dead because of racial hate is wrong but that doesn't make it right to distort history, does it? My point is that historical free inquiry is being suppressed in the name of European hate laws which is just wrong in a supposed free society.
Alex."

Where did the 5 million Jews go oh great historian Alex?

"They all immigrated to israel or North America. I never disputed that six million jews were *missing* from pre WWII Europe but absence doesn't mean dead.
Alex."

What a retarded MAROON. He was probably dumped by a 12 year old Jewish girl when he was 14 and now he dreams about Jews. LMAO, too funny.

Alex, doesn't hate Jews, he just wants Jews wiped off the planet:

Zindlerlist about 9/11(another poster said):"don't forget this whole thing is because of our Israeli-occupied government. if the USA had a government that used reason instead of Zionism or Jew Supremacy as a guide to foreign policy, the 9/11 attacks would not have taken place. it is time for American Atheists to begin speaking out more against judaism, zionists and israel."

"ZindlersList is right on the mark with his comments about the Arab Islamic world's hatred of the West, and the USA and UK in particular, being based on support for the appalling apartheid Zionist policies regarding Palestinians living in "Israel". Zionist Jews and End Time Chrisitians tell the world that Muslims "hate our freedom and way of life" but this is just bullshit for the masses who don't have even a basic grasp of what the entire Palestinian and Jewish conflict is really about: the illeagle occupation of Palestinian lands by foreign Jews which is aided by American money and military might.
Once Israel ceases to exist the world will be a much more peacful place."

This was September 11th 2005. He was still capitalizing Israel, Jews and Zionists back then. Maybe he is Zindlerlist too. I wouldn't put it past the proven coward.

But in all seriousness, it is Atheists like this that really bother me. They throw facts out the door just so that they can hate. It just goes to show that there are pathetic Atheists in the world too.

Update: Our Alex is gay (not that there's anything wrong with that):

Comment from: alexgator1 [Member]
PMSwift,
I too am a gay atheist (in the South!) and for too long gay people have been demonized, opressed, beaten, killed, and generally made to be fucking miserable by religious people and like you I make no apologies in attacking their mythology. Yes, I'm angry and I never pass up an oppourtunity to point out the fallacy of religion or argue with religious people about how incredibly ignorant and self delusional they are and I really could care less if this hurts someones feelings. Fuck the religious.
Alex.

Ok, now I have to change my opinion of him. It wasn't a 12 year old Jewish girl who jilted him when he was 14, but a 12 year old Jewish boy. All the pieces are falling together. Talk about one really screwed up dude. Of all the major religions, Jews have been probably the most tolerant towards gays. He is from the South, so his hatred of Jews might have to do with anti-semitic parents. He should probably seek counselling, if he isn't already.

Blogger Commits Heinous Crime

Yahoo profile picture of a child murderer.

Check this out at The Atheist Mama via Pharyngula. There is a link to his blog. Look at it before it is taken down. This sick basturd was apparently off his meds.

'Updated: 10:21 a.m. ET April 17, 2006

PURCELL, Okla. - The man accused of killing a 10-year-old neighbor girl for an elaborate plan to eat human flesh joked about cannibalism on his online diary, discussed the effects of not taking his anti-depression medication and mentioned “dangerously weird” fantasies.

All he wanted in life, Kevin Ray Underwood wrote in his blog, was “to be able to live like a normal person.”

People who knew Underwood described him Sunday as a quiet, “boring” and seemingly trustworthy young man. His mother who lived across town called him a “wonderful boy.”

The 26-year-old grocery store stocker was arrested Friday. Investigators searched his apartment after he aroused their suspicions at a checkpoint, and found a large plastic tub in a bedroom closet. According to a police affidavit, he confessed that he killed Jamie Rose Bolin, telling FBI agents: “Go ahead and arrest me. She is in there. I chopped her up.”

Jamie’s unclothed body was inside the tub, along with a towel used to soak up blood, officials said. Police said that, while there were deep saw marks on the girl’s neck, she had not been dismembered.

Elaborate plan
“Regarding a potential motive,” Purcell Police Chief David Tompkins said Saturday, “this appears to have been part of a plan to kidnap a person, rape them, torture them, kill them, cut off their head, drain the body of blood, rape the corpse, eat the corpse then dispose of the organs and bones.”

Investigators found meat tenderizer and barbecue skewers that he planned to use on the body, McClain County District Attorney Tim Kuykendall said in this small community 40 miles south of Oklahoma City.

Underwood, who is to be formally charged with first-degree murder Monday, lived alone in an apartment downstairs from the one where Jamie lived with her father.

Authorities believe Underwood killed the girl Wednesday, when she disappeared after going to a library, by beating and smothering her.

Underwood’s family was shocked.'

Excerpts from his blog can be found at The Insomnia Report as well.

Here is what a Yahoo search of his Yahoo ID yields.

Here is some insight on his faith:
From: subspecies23@aol.com (SubSpecies23)

"My parents think/thought that I'm a/an Christian.
and most of my friends presume I'm a/an agnostic. Actually I hardly have any
friends, all the friends I do have know I'm a SubGenius. Most of my coworkers
are afraid of me, they seem to think I'm the spawn of Satan.
(Of course I don't really believe in "Bob".
Secretly I'm kind of a/an fill-in-the-blank.)"

This message board makes him appear as normal as anyone.

But in February 2002 he posted this:

From: subspecies23@aol.comsucks (Rev. Underwood)

I got to thinking yesterday, I wonder if people themselves are contributing to
global warming. I mean, you'd think with several billion people on the planet
all that combined body heat would eventually raise the temperature a little,
not much though, but maybe a couple of degrees. My solution to Global Warming?
Kill Everyone. That's my solution for everything though. There are too many
people on this planet, we need more death. Anything that kills people is fine
with me. 2000 something people dead in the WTC? Good. No one I know was
there, so why should I care? We need a few more bombings and natural
disasters.

Here he admits to being a 23 year old virgin. That was 3 years ago.

What a sicko he is, to do what he did. If he is an Atheist, he didn't write much about it from what I've seen.

I'm thankful I didn't make his blogroll.

My Case For Israel, As An Atheist

First, let me start off with a quote by the founder of the Zionist Movement: "When I remember thee in days to come, O Jerusalem, it will not be with pleasure. The musty deposits of 2,000 years of inhumanity, intolerance, and uncleanliness lie in the foul-smelling alleys".... The amiable dreamer of Nazareth has only contributed to increasing the hatred.... What superstition and fanaticism on every side!"
-- Theodor Herzl, after a visit to Jerusalem in 1898, from James A. Haught, ed., 2000 Years of Disbelief

Herzl was in fact an Atheist. An Atheist is someone who doesn't buy into the existence of God, as there is no proof of a God, or 2 Gods, or 500 Gods. Unfortunately, I find many Atheists out there today try to take it a step further and actually are against any conflicts on this planet that have any relation to a religious group or religious values. And many Far Left Atheists tend to believe that we are all humans deep down, and we should all be treated the same way, regardless of our actions.
This is where I break off from the Atheist Moonbats. They tend to forget why they became Atheists. Atheists are supposed to be the ultimate Realists. If it is real, we believe it
(Thanks to the Church of Reality for the concept). Well guess what?, I believe in Israel because it is real, and so is the justification of her existence.
The Zionist movement goes back to the late 1800's in Europe, where "Herzl concluded that anti-Semitism was a stable and immutable factor in human society, which assimilation did not solve....He saw the future state as a model social state, basing his ideas on the European model of the time, of a modern enlightened society. It would be neutral and peace-seeking, and of a secular nature.... He envisioned a new society that was to rise in the Land of Israel on a cooperative basis utilizing science and technology in the development of the Land." (source:Jewish Virtual Library)
Herzl was in fact desperate for a Jewish state after visiting the Jews of Russia, and actually pushed for at least a temporary state in Uganda. He died in 1904, before any such decision was made, but then again, reality took over. Just because Herzl was Godless, didn't mean that the majority of Jews were Godless, and Israel was in fact the birthplace of Judaism. The region of Palestine made sense as the location of the Jewish homeland.

80% of where Israel is situated today was barren in 1900. No inhabitants and most of it did not have land owners. The population in the late 1800's was quite small too, only around 500,000 Arabs and less than 50,000 Jews, and most of the Arabs were farmers, really unaffected by who was running the show. And 500,000 isn't a lot of people considering the population is more than 6 million in Israel today.

Now lets fast forward to WW2. The Holocaust. Yep, Herzl hit the nail on the head and his worst nightmare scenario was realized. The realization of Israel as a Jewish majority state, which had been lobbied for since the early 1900's was now fast tracked. This is where todays Arab rhetoric really gets me. 70% of the Partitioned state was British controlled. It was UNOWNED. Jews owned 6-8.8% depending on what source you read, and Arabs owned up to 20% (only just over 3% by those Arabs who actually lived there). 20% ownership does not mean it was Arab land.
The UN wasn't giving away anyones OWNED land. The Partition was made so that there would be two states. It strategically made it so that the existing Jewish population would be a majority within Jewish state lines. No Arab had to leave or be displaced. The only thing is that 400,000 Arabs would have to live under Jewish rule instead of British or Turkish rule.

The Arabs started a war immediately. They didn't accept the Partition. They wanted to control 100% of the Middle East. Again, my old friend Reality steps in. When you make bad choices in your life regardless of who told you what, there are consequences beyond your control. The Arabs who left, mostly did so because they were anticipating an Arab victory. They made their choice and lost. Had the Arabs won any war, I wonder how many Jews there would be in Israel today. Not very many, and those living there would be Dhimmis at best.
Of course, these tensions coupled with Israel's success caused around 800,000 Jews to leave Arab countries without compensation in the early 1950's, a fair trade off for the 500,000 Arabs who left Israel. Why didn't the Arab nations take in the Palestinian refugees? Why is it that of the 50 million refugees that were created since WW2, that they only people who are still whining about returning to homes, that are long gone, are the Palestinians? How many Palestinians who were displaced in 1948 are still alive today? If my grandfather made a decision to leave or was even kicked out of a place in the 1940's, I would be laughing at the idea that I would feel the need to return there, especially if he didn't own the property.
If you look at the formation of any country on this planet, none began with the acceptance of 100% of the population. New countries tend to piss off a lot of the inhabitants. Most countries weren't formed as legally as Israel was formed, most borders today reflect the spoils of war and invasion. Look at Arabia, Paliphiles conveniently forget that most of Arabia was conquered by Arabs from around the 7th to 10th Centuries. Arabia is as much stolen land as Israel is.

Israel has been on the defensive since her birth. The Arabs have had numerous chances to end the conflict. And yes, their land offers have gotten smaller every time, rightfully they should. They keep proving that Israel has to defend herself because they just won't stop. And nobody gets do-overs when they lose a war.

Then you have the myth of US Aid. My contention is that US Aid is the only thing that has kept the Palestinians alive. It is all political, it started off as a Cold War biproduct, and now is mostly to do with oil relations with other Arab states. Imagine what the US would do if Mexico sponsored and applauded suicide bombers to come to Texas in an attempt to get "their land" back. Mexico would be a giant parking lot. Israel existed fine without US support that in all reality became a factor in the early 70's.

No country is perfect. The settlements were a mistake. Although I believe them to be a Red Herring. But certain politicians have made such mistakes throughout history. The Reality is that many settlements today are unmovable (too costly economically), as some are medium sized cities. But there were no settlements prior to 1967, and the PLO was formed in 1964. Hamas has stated that it really doesn't matter, as retreat from the settlements would just be phase one of their plan to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. Jews leaving Gaza didn't improve Israel-Palestinian relations one bit.

I've been critical when it comes to the Religious Settlers and their Fundamental mentality. However, their numbers are substantially low. Israel has a very large secular population. In fact, only 22% of the Jews in Israel regularly attend Synagogue on Saturday morning, and over 50% never do. Cultural traditions like Seders are practiced by up to 95%. Atheism/Agnoticism is estimated to be around 25%, but as high as 37% depending on the survey.

Atheists must realize that there are people out there who wish to destroy our freedoms. The Christian Fundies can be considered in the mix, however, we can still pay to listen to Howard Stern if we wish, and abortions though frowned upon don't get you thrown in jail (yet). I'm not concerned with Christian Fundies, they can be stabilized, and in the long run, they are a dying culture. As more scientific discoveries come out, future generations will look at these people as kooks. You can't continue to argue against Reality, in even a semi free society.
It is the radical Islamists that are the major threat. Their culture is one of hate and intolerance. Although somewhat improving, the scientific and technology that comes out of Islamic states (run by the radicals more or less) is next to nothing. They want to take over the world. Just look at Gaza. Do you remember any Palestinian saying "oh boy, this is great, we have our home back, now we can grow our own Arab state"? Of course not. They just looked at it as a start towards their ultimate goal of destroying Israel. Then what? They have no plan. The Arab countries know this. They use Israel as a smokescreen to give their oppressed masses a reason to hate the West( a reason to live) and not the rich Princes of Arabia with their palaces and 30 wives.
If a terrorist has a nuke, they will use it. Common sense is out the door with anyone who thinks using suicide bombs against innocent individuals is a good thing.

Voting Hamas was the last straw as far as I'm concerned when it comes to sympathy for the Palestinians. The Palestinians have never missed an opportunity to miss and opportunity. I don't buy into the rhetoric that they were fed up with Fatah (who incidentally was a major reason Israel pulled out of Gaza). 54% of Palestinians voted for Hamas, and 54% of Palestinians support suicide bombings. Nuff said.

Israel is unfortunately still needed as a refuge against anti-semitism. Just look at what has happened recently in France. At least now, Jews from anywhere in the planet can go to Israel if they feel they are persecuted too much or if they feel persecution is getting worse. If Israel existed prior to the Holocaust, who knows what the end result would be. I doubt the numbers of Jews who would have perished would have been that great. Maybe Hitler would have dealt with Jews slightly differently if Israel existed. Maybe. And lets not forget, that Hitler didn't care if a Jew believed in God or what degree that belief was. He murdered Jews because of their ethnicity. The anti-semites that infest the earth today don't care if Jews believe in God or not either, in probably almost every instance.

One day, whether it is 500 years from now or 2000 years from now, Atheists will be the majority. We are a majority in Denmark and Sweden, pretty much today. The trick is, we have to make to that time. Radical Islam, if left alone, will not let that happen. They must be REFORMED. And they will not reform themselves on their own. That is the REALITY of the situation. Israel is on the right side.

Now let us look at the size of Israel, the country that causes all this commotion:

Israel is 1/649th the size of all the Arab countries put together. They have 1/49th the population of all Arab countries put together.
Their GDP is 1/11th of all the Arab countries put together (must be all that Israeli oil).

If a complete cure to most cancers came out of Israel would you be surprised?
How about if it came from Lebanon or Syria?

God Inspired The Bible But Couldn't Get His Story Straight

HAPPY EASTER TO MY FUNDY FRIENDS



Skeptic's Annotated Bible on Who Saw Jesus Rise First:

The two Marys
Matthew 28:1, 9
In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.... And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him.

Mary Magdalene
Mark 16:9
Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.

John 20:11-14
But Mary stood without at the sepulchre weeping ... and saw Jesus standing, and knew not that it was Jesus.

Cleopas and another
Luke 24:13-31
And, behold, two of them went that same day to a village called Emmaus.... And the one of them, whose name was Cleopas, answering said unto him, Art thou only a stranger in Jerusalem, and hast not known the things which are come to pass there in these days? ... And it came to pass, as he sat at meat with them, he took bread, and blessed it, and brake, and gave to them. And their eyes were opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight.

Cephas
1 Corinthians 15:4-5
And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve.


I'm sure that the Fundies have spun this one over and over again to make their Bible literally correct. Too bad they waste their time on this nonsense. They are better off learning about evolution, and I mean learn from real science sources.


Bonus picture: Atheists Last Supper, courtesy of Minister of Rants, another very funny site.

JOKE TIME

One day two clergymen, a priest and a rabbi, are playing a round of golf. On the first hole the rabbi hits the ball into a sand trap. "Shit, I missed!" says the rabbi.

The priest says, "You shouldn't use such language, you'll incite the Lord's wrath."

"Yeah whatever," the rabbi replies. After retrieving his ball the rabbi swings again and hits the ball into the woods. "God damnit, I missed!" he exclaims.

The priest says, "Don't say that, for it is a sin to take the Lord's name in vain."

"Right, sure," says the rabbi. After playing through the rabbi takes one more swing and hits the ball into the pond. "Fuck it, I missed!" he says.

All of a sudden the skies darken with stormclouds. A lightning bolt flashes from the heavens and strikes the priest, electrocuting him instantly.

A big booming voice in the sky rings out, "Shit I missed!"


Thanks to Silentknight who posted this joke in the Raving Atheist Forum.

If anyone has a sinister religious themed joke, feel free to post it as a comment to this post.