I didn't want to blog about this, but since the Freedom From Religion is taking a stance of willful ignorance, by not backing down despite hearing and viewing actual facts as to why their stance against the Holocaust Memorial in Ohio is simply wrong, I just have to add my two cents.
Nobody is more for separation of church and state than me, but when it comes to the Star Of David, an idiot can research it and find it is neither biblical or religious. Jews are a religion and/or ethnicity. When Hitler murdered Jews in Nazi Europe, he didn't ask if they were religious, let alone if they believed in God. So the argument that the Star violates of the First Amendment or separation of church and state is hooey, nothing more, nothing less. It doesn't promote Judaism, nobody is going to see the Memorial and say, the USA has become a Jewish nation, nor will it in any way make anyone want to convert to Judaism.
David Silverman, President of American Atheists usually gets things right, but he overcompensates against Jews for being born an ethnic Jew (some sort of dissociation psychological disorder I think), and common sense gets thrown aside.
Here is a rational atheist, David Fincke's (Camel With Hammer) take on the subject.
Here is an irrational rant by David Silverman:
When a Fox News hot blonde wins a debate, it is time to reassess your position Silverman.
His point, and only point it seems, that more than one group were Holocaust victims and that they should be represented in the same way is ridiculous, and here is why: The Nazis put out a lot of propaganda, but the only films I remember seeing were those which made Jews out to be subhuman and the cause of every wrong in the world. There weren't films about blacks, gays, or Gypsies, just Jews.
Films like this, the Eternal Jew, not the Eternal Homosexual, were used to get the German people to go along with Hitler's plan:
As for the Star of David making the Memorial look like a synagogue, again just pure foolishness by Silverman. Did the Stars that Jews were forced to wear make the Jewish people look like synagogues.
Freedom from Religion Foundation, wake up and GET A LIFE!
Another excellent read on the subject: Atheists against the Ohio Holocaust memorial: How not to fight for separation of church and state
August 2, 2013
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Comments by IntenseDebate
Stan · 610 weeks ago
The Atheist Jew 73p · 610 weeks ago
v1car 40p · 610 weeks ago
You're also, incidentally, wrong. The Nazis came to power in the first place via anti-Communist propaganda; they were a right-wing anti-Communism party right from the get-go. So yes, there was some pretty serious propaganda going on there, too.
The Atheist Jew 73p · 610 weeks ago
Still, I don't see anything from you on how the Holocaust Museum is something to get uppity about, but then again far Left whackjobs have a huge problem when it comes to identifying things like true victims and such.
v1car 40p · 610 weeks ago
"The Nazis put out a lot of propaganda, but the only films I remember seeing were those which made Jews out to be subhuman and the cause of every wrong in the world. There weren't films about blacks, gays, or Gypsies, just Jews. Films like this, the Eternal Jew, not the Eternal Homosexual, were used to get the German people to go along with Hitler's plan:"
If there's any way to interpret that OTHER THAN "because of this propaganda, the deaths of the Jews are more important than the others", I'd like to know what it is. Although I have a feeling it's going to be a sputtering batch of nonsense and backpedalling, trying to pretend that what you wrote had some other meaning than the obvious one.
The Atheist Jew 73p · 610 weeks ago
What I am pointing out is there was a specific campaign against the Jews shared to all of the German people by the Nazis. It doesn't mean Jews were more important.
What a retard you are. No backpeddling needed. Your ridiculous assertions are here for everyone to see.
Stan · 610 weeks ago
Just what kind of a Jew are you, anyway? (That's a rhetorical question. Any answer you provide will surely be unworthy of reading.)
The Atheist Jew 73p · 610 weeks ago
You have the credibility of a troll here, Stan.
imj · 610 weeks ago
Not true.
The enemies of Israel that are slaughtering themselves is a sign and a wonder. Just like they have killed themselves in the past.
Jonathan · 609 weeks ago
As a non-Jew I've always viewed the Star of David as a religious symbol. I would agree that the monument should feature symbols that represent all of the affected groups, if it's going to have symbols at all.
Separately, someone should make a monument to all the boys whose penises were raped as a result of Jewish culture. Certainly circ is no justification for what Hitler did. But no culture is perfect or particularly more noble.
Anyway I don't think they've gone insane. Maybe I think that because I'm not a Jew. However maybe I'm half Jew since they cut a part of my penis off after birth, against my will. I've got more things to complain about therefore, and thus I'm part Jew apparently.
The Atheist Jew 73p · 609 weeks ago
As for the Star of David being religious, I'm sure many people perceive that as well, but it really isn't.
What is next for the FFRF, are they going to sue the Crescent Moon because it is too Muslimy?
Kevin · 609 weeks ago
1. You contend that the Star of David is not a religious symbol
2. Due to Nazi propaganda, Jews were the primary target.
Regarding #2, I believe you are correct. Although there were many other victimized groups, Jews were the primary target on the campaign.
As far as #1, I disagree. Although the origination of the symbol may not have been religious, it has become one. I think that the vast majority of people today regard the Star of David as a religious symbol. Thus having the symbol displayed on the monument gives the appearance of religious influence.
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