March 18, 2006

Bacon and God: The Bible Finally Got Something Right

The Theory of Inflation destroys one of the common skeptic arguments that questions how god could create light(one Day one) without creating stars first (that happened on Day 4 according to Genesis). Not to worry, we still have boatloads of arguments and mounds and mounds of evidence that disproves much of the bible(s), so I'm not sweating this one.

I'm just a layman when it comes to physics, so thinking about the repercussions here really do hurt my head after a few minutes. Everything came from the explosion of a marble like object? This makes me wonder what happened the second before the universe expanded? Did energy create all the matter in the universe? In the first fraction of a trillionth of a trillionth second how fast did the marble explode? Was the speed of light relative to the marble or were laws of physics as we know them today null and void before this happened? And if it happened once, is it happening elsewhere in other universes? Do I have a clue what I'm talking about?

OK, my head hurts. Time to play frisbee with Daisy.


  1. In bible, God says "Let there be light: and there was light." And God saw the light, that [it was] good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
    Here is my thought: The matter that makes up the universe is composed of two types visible matter (light) and invisible matter (dark). It is the ratio that I find interesting 95% is dark matter and 5% is visible matter.

    I wonder if the ratio is also true of people 95% in darkness and 5% in godliness.

  2. It is refreshing to see a religious person endeavor to find a concordance between their beliefs and science, and achieve it by shaping the belief to the scientific record, instead of vice-versa... so many religious types try to distort the scientific record, or to deny it altogether. Evolution versus Intelligent Design is a good example. No part of evolution or science in general, trys to deny the existence of God or the supernatural, science merely does not consider these things. It is the majority of fundamentalists who are "looking for direct conflict," shall we say.

  3. In the bible, God says "Yet I have left [me] seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal, and every mouth which hath not kissed him."

    What is interesting about this verse is that God has numbered the Isrealites that are in godliness, all of the others are in darkness. The percentage is so small; the only time that it was smaller is during the time of Noah.

    When Elijah condemned Israel for being in darkness, God replaced Elijah with Elisha the son of Shaphat of Abelmeholah.

    Elijah did not understand, that God can command the light to shine out of the darkness.

  4. When you say, "what happened before", that is where everyone stumbles. Everything we know about cosmology and every day experience do not mesh. Every day, we see causes preceding (in time and in action) their effects. With the Big Bang, we are talking about t=0. There is no "before the Big Bang", which is, itself, a hole that theists attempt to use to insert, "so what caused it? It must be God!" There are more than a few strong counter-arguments, but I think the most important realization is that this argument is still based on our experience that all beginnings are caused, and that all causes precede effects temporally (and mechanically/spatially/actively). This analogy, and subsequent logic, does not hold when we move to a "beginning" (misnomer) which itself cannot be temporally preceded by anything. Also, the laws of physics that give rise to cause-effect did not themselves exist until after t=0. For more, see Tremblay and others.

  5. I realize that it only makes sense that there had to be a "time" when the laws of physics as we know them did not exist prior to t=0. The funny thing is that theists have no problem imagining god existing prior to t=0 in a sense that can't be explained scientifically, but can't grasp that god wasn't required to exist ever.