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April 26, 2006
Bravo Professor Wichman, Bravo
Thank you for putting the ridiculous and hypocritical protests by Muslims in proper perspective. I applaud you, and support your email completely.
Here is the Professor's email to the Moslem Association at Michigan State University via Dhimmi Watch:
Dear Moslem Association: As a professor of Mechanical Engineering here at MSU I intend to protest your protest.
I am offended not by cartoons, but by more mundane things like beheadings of civilians, cowardly attacks on public buildings, suicide murders, murders of Catholic priests (the latest in Turkey!), burnings of Christian chirches, the continued persecution of Coptic Christians in Egypt, the imposition of Sharia law on non-Muslims, the rapes of Scandinavain girls and women (called "whores" in your culture), the murder of film directors in Holland, and the rioting and looting in Paris France.
This is what offends me, a soft-spoken person and academic, and many, many, many of my colleagues. I counsul you dissatisfied, agressive, brutal, and uncivilized slave-trading Moslems to be very aware of this as you proceed with your infantile "protests."
If you do not like the values of the West -- see the 1st Ammendment -- you are free to leave. I hope for God's sake that most of you choose that option. Please return to your ancestral homelands and build them up yourselves instead of troubling Americans.
Cordially, I. S. Wichman, Professor of Mechanical Engineering
Not only do I agree whole heartedly with the content of his un PC stance, but I also find it amusing that Muslims and the babies on the Far Left find the content of his free speech appalling and want him severely reprimanded.
The Prof's first name is Indrek. If he was living in a Muslim state, he would be living up to his name, hopefully that won't be the case in America.
Additional comment: This letter really speaks of the hypocrisy of the Muslims. After 9/11 I often heard the excuse that the reason that there wasn't very many protests against terrorist acts was that the Muslims didn't have enough numbers in the West to generate proper prostests. Obviously, as we know now, that was a lie.
And again, I also bring up the fact that the cartoons were published in Egypt in October, and it didn't generate one protest. So is the image of Mohammed really that offensive, or are the Muslims who protest just a bunch of hypocritical whiners?
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That would be Michigan State University (MSU Spartans), not University of Michigan (Michigan Wolverines). MSU is in East Lansing, UofM is in Ann Arbor.
ReplyDeleteAnd they don't like each other very much :-)
Thanks, I will make the correction now.
ReplyDeleteThe sentiments expressed by Professor Wichman are a lot more widespread than the media reports. Remember the Dubai Ports fiasco? As soon as it became public about three-fourths of Americans instantly and violently started protesting, writing their Congressmen, Senators, etc. and got the thing quashed. All it took was the perception of a potential threat by Arabic Muslims to set that off. There is a huge silent majority out there who aren't saying much, but they are thinking pretty much along the same lines as those of us who post on blogs and Yahoo Message Boards. And they shed the LIBERAL bullshit in the media like water off a duck's back.
ReplyDeleteHe makes some good points, but I think the poor spelling and grammar undercut his arguments. But maybe this is only because, in the real world, I'm an editor. I've always considered proper spelling and grammar to be essential in making oneself seem intelligent and reliable.
ReplyDeleteCarl, I know, he is saying what a lot of people are scared to say but what loads of people are thinking.
ReplyDeleteFrances, English may not be his first language, even so, lots of Profs these days rely on spellchecks and grammar checks. He is a mechanical engineer don't forget. I'm use to making mistakes myself as I don't use spellchecks, etc either. I'm glad you agree with his points though, I was starting to worry about you:) And I think the emotion in his writings overcome any bad grammar.
I hope this guy has tenure! And, sadly, I hope he has someone x-raying his mail. I wish more figures in education would speak out like this, but the threats and intimidation have been very effective in silencing real criticism of the Religion of Peace. Three cheers for Prof. Wichman!
ReplyDeleteThe point of this letter was to bring to light that protesting the cartoons was in fact infantile because of the lack of protests going on to protest Islamic terrorism.
ReplyDeleteAfter 9/11 the excuse I heard by Muslims and their sympathizers was that they didn't have the numbers to voice out properly against OBL and Al Qaeda.
Obviously that isn't the case as viewed by the cartoon protests.
Sure, the email was a little over the top and rhetorical(most emotional pieces are like this), but I figured out that he wasn't talking about ALL Muslims but just giving examples, however, it is easy to group Muslims together because they protest cartoons but remain pretty silent as a whole when it comes to protesting Radical Islam, it gives many in the West the idea that there isn't much separating the mindset of a Radical and "moderate" Muslim.
GLO, your point that someone is more in danger in the West also shows the hypocrisy of Islamists. Remember, an Egyptian paper was first to publish pics of Mohammed in October, and the Muslim world was silent. The drawings of Mohammed didn't seem to bother them then.
Also the comparison to the Holocaust is unfair. Innocents were murdered. The reason the Mohammed cartoons were popular is that it is no secret that Muslims are murdering innocents around the world in the name of Allah.
Either you or Michael Jackson. You should do a piece about MJ and the reaction of Bahrainians to his presence there.
ReplyDeleteHeh... AJ, you gave me some great ideas.
ReplyDeleteIf you followed the link to the Egyptian publication, you saw that Yaakov Kirschen, the writer of the Israeli cartoon series Dry Bones, linked up to the cartoons. It's already been made into a Jewish conspiracy theory, so why not make the most of it, right?
ReplyDeleteFrances, English may not be his first language, even so, lots of Profs these days rely on spellchecks and grammar checks. He is a mechanical engineer don't forget. I'm use to making mistakes myself as I don't use spellchecks, etc either. I'm glad you agree with his points though, I was starting to worry about you:) And I think the emotion in his writings overcome any bad grammar.
ReplyDeleteIt just seems to me that his inability to correctly spell even simple words like "churches" betrays a less-than-impressive intellect. That might sound harsh, but I think most fourth graders can spell that word correctly. And, if you're going to write a public letter, you ought to at least employ the spellcheck feature.
Each time I've written to the newspaper in my city, I spent an hour reading through the 250-word letter about 50 times, making sure every comma was where it should have been. I think I spellchecked each one thrice, too.
"Like it or not, It was Colonial Europe and later America that triggered this sense of national and religion pride. Any reader of history sees a clear shift in Muslim state policies and number of capital punishments before and after the crusades. The "West" made them tougher and harder and more arrogant." from GOL
ReplyDeleteI usually agree with this guy's posts but I must take issue with that statement.
I think that an alternative interpretation of the same historical record shows that "Muslim state policies" merely reflected a "more benevolent master" as long as the Muslim war machine was enjoying a string of victories. When they hit a "bump in the Jihad-road", thanks just as much (perhaps more) to non-Western India, as well as the West, we may see
the same shift in policies. If we all surrender to their will, as they wish, they will probably smile at us more when they step off the elevator, too.
I also agree the Dubai deal should have gone through. The US is NO safer with British companies owning the ports. I think people don't really understand what owning the ports even really means. US customs still controls what goes in or out of the country, that would not change one bit. It's like saying we should not allow Saudi airlines to fly into US airports because that would make the "airports safer". That's stupid. We should have let the deal go through because it was safe, and showed the US is not prejudicial in the international business arena.
ReplyDeleteI agree with AJ this man wrote quick and with emotion. He misspelled is not the point, what we wrote is the point. Muslims in general and their organizations, ie CAIR, protest every time someone says anything bad about Muslims or Islam or their prophet. Yet they rarely protest, if at all, the destruction of human life.
ReplyDeleteJust for the record.
Islam invaded Europe way before the Crusades. The Crusades were a response. I am not a fan of the Crusades, they murdered more Jews in Europe than Muslims in Palestine.
Slavery is still practiced in the Muslim countries. Sudan and Chad Christians are taken as slaves and are used in multiple Muslim countries. Also there is a moderate size trade in white slaves as well.
If you belong to a religion be prepared for people to poke sticks at you and it. For centuries this has happened to any religion in the world. Muslims have been doing it to Christians and Jews alike for centuries.
A large population of the Arab world condones and practices, honor killing, woman treated like property, force conversion, punishment for practicing other religions, the murder of innocent non-believers, terrorism and the strapping of bombs to children.
Now the average person in the West does not agree with these actions. But we do not riot or protest every time something happens.
The professor wrote an interesting letter whose content we can agree with. Maybe we do not agree with everything. We can always write our own letter and state our own views.
Indeed, there are a billion muslims in the world, and only a fraction of those are militant. Unfortunately for the moderates and those who are largely indifferent, the militant radicals think nothing of using murder and violence to keep the rest quiet.
ReplyDeleteI don't have a problem with muslims, but I have a real problem with Islam. It's an evil cult that has never found peace with any of its neighbors. While we should encourage the secular humanists in muslim countries, let us not lose sight of the fact that Islam itself is evil.
As for those muslims who protest the use of satire against their cult, there's an old saying of my people that is apropos: fuck 'em if they can't take a joke.
Cheers.
I see that some of you are truly oblivous to the reason for the crusades in the first place and that was because the faithful christians were coming under attack and killed by the Muslims in the when trying to observe they holy days there in the Holy Land
ReplyDeleteAs to slave trade there are a few going on today and they are in Asia and Africa are the two major ones. Guess who controls those two why Muslims since they are still doing pirating off both coasts of Africa right now.
Now as to why the moderate Muslims aren't talking out well many here aren't aware that it is part of their religion to not speak out against one of their own religion. This is part of being subserviant to their religion no matter how bad it is to others.
There are parts of the Bible that are quite similar in their statments about infidels or those not part of their faith. The problem is that we have come out of those dark ages (Or least tried) and yet the Muslims have not as a faith. They had until a certain group preached Jihad a long time ago to keep from losing their grip on the people.
You must remember that Mohammed was Illiterate and someone had to write down his statments for him and then read them back to him to make sure it was what he said. There was no pattern to his speech and this is what made them so confusing to people because they were part if his ramblings just like that of Edgar Cayce's. It took a major counsel of the faithful to come up with the Quoran as we see it now and that was many years after Mohammed's death. It was only during Saladin times did they make copies of the Quoran and made sure that everyone could read it before that no one could read it because they were that illiterate. So when you don't hear any protest against such attocities it is because they are obeying their faith to not complain of those of their faith. I don't like it but it is their faith not to critize such behavour in their people. I must also say the Muslim foot soldiers were more literate then many of the Knights that fought with Richard the Lionhearted after the Second Crusades
As far as the Muslims attacking into Europe yes they did long before the Crusades. The Spanish had finally stopped them before the Pyrennes and it took them a very long time to take it all back.
I had 11 friends in the WTC on 9/11 and I had the DC Sniper stay in my apartment parking lot only because I had the American flag displaying outside my Apartment and he chose to stay in the area because one of my neighbors was a Muslim. Did that Muslim Family know of this person Atrocities? No, I think the family was just being a Good Samaritan to one of their faith and that they met at the local mosque here in Richmond. Just as someone would come up to you in your faith asking for a cheap place to stay only to allow them a place to stay the night.
GOL I am sorry that you can't protest against such things but it is getting that way here where Conservatives are being told to shut up because the Liberals here don't like the real truth but what is homogenized for them like website like MoveOn.org and others. This is where Hate Crime is all about here anything a conservative states is considered a hate crime or racists here. but thru my years of living in different areas of America and seeing the hypocrits of the Left are the true racists because they are the ones that create rules that not everyone can follow unless you become a socialist. These same sort of laws were enacted by a certain European country in the 30's until they were soundly defeated in World War II.
I had a friend of mine that I worked with that had himself mailed out of Egypt to get away from being conscripted into war with Israel. He is a Coptic and you know how much they are condemned in Egypt even today. I had another friend that was an Iranian Jew and got out of Iran as quickly as he could back in the Mid 70's and you can imagine what he and his family went thru.
The issue at hand is that these are criminals are using Religion as a front to control the people since they don't like the ability of the People to control their own future since they are the ones that can't control the people.
Sincerly
Jim