FUNDIES HAVE HUMAN RIGHTS, SO WHY NOT THE OTHER GREAT APES?

According to the Brussels Journal: Spain May Grant Human Rights to Apes.

The Spain Herald reports that the bill is calling for "the immediate inclusion of (simians) in the category of persons, and that they be given the moral and legal protection that currently are only enjoyed by human beings."
I see nothing wrong with this. Of course, the intentions have to do with habitat and animal protection. But I wonder if passed, do the implications also include housing, wages and even same sex marriage.

This stuff really must piss off the Christian Right especially. It is a total recognition on how closely related humans are to chimpanzees, bonobos, gorillas and orangutans. The evolutionary and genetic similarities between man and ape are too obvious to ignore......by a thinking man.
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Fundies really hate the fact that is evolution. Our common ape ancestor appeared around 25 million years ago. Between then and around 5 million years the ancestor of human beings appeared. 99% of all species go extinct, so there were probably lots of variations in the ape family, including the extinct Neanderthal man.
Interestingly, humans share 98.4% of our genes with chimpanzees, 97.7% with gorillas, and 96.4% with orangutans. And the sequence of their appearance on the planet is predictable by evolution theory. Chimps the closest relation(other than bonobos) to humans appeared 5 million years ago, gorillas appeared 7 million years ago and orangutans, 8 million years ago.
The bonobos evolved from chimps between 2 and 2.5 million years ago, and they have evolved into the most similar species to humans.



I like how Amnesty International has a hard time dealing with this. They have no problem supporting terrorists who strap on suicide bombs. But they have a problem with banana eaters who don't blow up innocents.

Why not give these apes the same human rights we give the minors, the mentally handicapped and the Christian Fundies get? Apes are our cousins and man is driving many of them into extinction. And they are helpless. They need our support. I'm glad Spain is taking notice.



Here is more info about great ape extinction.

RABBI GELLMAN, IT IS YOUR IGNORANCE THAT MAKES ME ANGRY

Does Rabbi Marc Gellman get paid for the crap he recently wrote for Newsweek as a "columnist?" He wrote an article entitled Trying To Understand Angry Atheists, yet he didn't quote any "angry" Atheists, and most importantly he made prejudicial blanket statements as to why he "thinks" Atheists are angry. He is completely out to lunch.
Even if he just wanted to interview Atheist Jews, he has plenty to choose from. More than one third of Secular Jews in America and Israel are either Atheist or Agnostic. There is even a Society for Humanistic Judaism , which "embraces a human-centered philosophy that combines the celebration of Jewish culture and identity with an adherence to humanistic values and ideas."

I think many Atheists are frustrated, and this sometimes leads to anger.
Instead of going the interview route, Rabbi Gellman makes statements like "So we disagree about God." No Rabbi, this is not what sets Atheists off. Personally, I find it frustrating that seemingly intelligent individuals believe in the story of Noahs Ark. I only get angry when they try to prove it, or try to push it as learning material in school. Yes, the idea of fairy tales being taught in science classes pisses me off.

Then he goes off on a tangent stating that "I am tempted to believe that behind atheist anger there are oftentimes uncomfortable personal histories. Perhaps their atheism was the result of the tragic death of a loved one, or an angry degrading sermon, or an insensitive eulogy, or an unfeeling castigation of lifestyle choices or perhaps something even worse."

Rabbi, you are a MORON. Where did you pull this crapola from? Atheists often appear angry when we see God and the State holding hands. Why was Howard Stern pulled from mainstream media? Why did Janet Jackson's nipple slip cause major television networks to skulk around like a dog who just did an accident in the living room? Why are their court cases trying to get creation into science classes?

He goes on to say that Atheists are lacking the demand to constantly be good because we "believe nothing." Newsflash Rabbi Idiot, Atheists believe in things that are REAL. Yes, we do believe. And as far as the possibility that we have no Moral guidelines, well whether one wants to say that Morality is objective or subjective, the reality is that the only evidence out there is that the 10 Commandments were written down by man for man. Objective moralists believe there is always a right action, while a subjective moralist believes that an individuals morality is a combination of evolution, societal norms and the individuals sympathy. Either way, we don't need God to be "more moral" than a believer.

He adds "I can humbly ask whether my atheist brothers and sisters really believe that their lives are better, richer and more hopeful..."

I didn't realize this was a competition. Since when does anyone become an Atheist to lead a better?, richer, and more hopeful life? Atheists do not believe in God, because there is NO GODDAM EVIDENCE THAT GOD EVER EXISTED. This isn't a lifestyle choice. It is a realization made by observation of facts and realities and common sense.

And then he starts on about religion giving hope. Who cares? Atheists play the cards dealt to us, by the laws of nature.
I'll deal with what is real and believers can cling on to fairy tales to give them hope.
Just keep your fairy tales in your own homes and your own houses of worship.

And to answer his question "Why do nonbelievers seem to be threatened by the idea of God?."

We are not threatened by a non existent being. We are threatened by Fundamentalists, whether they are Muslim, Christian, or Jewish. Those who try poison the state with lies, propaganda, their ideals, and in most cases their denial of scientific evidence.
We are threatened by their actions, which are based on their interpretations of a book of fairy tales.

For other Atheist POV's check Hellbound Alleee, The Secular Outpost,
Deep Thoughts, The No God Blog, Betty Cracker, and especially Unscrewing the Inscrutable

Rabbi Gellman should check these out, maybe he will become more learned, and less ignorant.

Time To Embarrass Myself

Number one, you only live once.
Number two, this is my blog.
Number three:



And to Paula Abdul, if you happen to hear this audio, don't bother stalking me. I think you are hot and all, but I'm a married man.

Did someone say encore?

Ahhh, to be 14 years younger with most of my hair.

Since one commenter (Simon) told me to never do this again, I decided to add one more here:

GREAT BLOGS THAT DEAL WITH ISLAMIC TERROR

I don't specialize in this subject, but I have written quite a few pieces on the topic of Radical Islam and Arab intolerance. My most controversial piece was on my attempt to explain Arab insanity and intolerance.

There are plenty of great resources on the net right now that take Radical Islam by the jugular vein. The biggies on this topic are Little Green Footballs and Jihad Watch.
Of course there are many others that aren't as well known and many I don't know about yet. Any hoot, here are the ones I know about, and that post regularly, and that I find very informative:

The Jawa Report doesn't seem to miss too much.
The Infidels Bloggers Alliance is excellent, and just got better with the addition of The Elder of Ziyon as a contributor. Elder specializes in articles about Israel and Jews that may have escaped mainstream media, as does Israpundit.
No Dhimmitude has a Canadian slant on the War on Terror included.
Rantings of a Sandmonkey is a must see site.
Atlas Shrugs takes no prisoners.
The Pub Philosopher gives a good UK slant.
OBL better not meet The Anti-Jihad Pundit in a dark alley.
The Global War on You Know Who has great wit and great posts.
Clarity and Resolve is pretty much to the point as is Bareknucklepolitics.
A wake-up blog for Muslims can be found at The Guilt of Most Arab Muslims.
My Vast Wing Right Conspiracy has to be mentioned here of course. Beth is a cool Fundy.
You say you want cartoons, well then try The Study of Revenge.
A good place to rant about the culture of death is Rantburg.
A couple of friends from the Yahoo board wars against Islam and anti-semites have recently started very informative blogs and are worth checking out: A March of Folly and Eye on the World.

The Far Left would do themselves a great service by checking out these blogs and attempting to get a grasp on REALITY.

Bravo Professor Wichman, Bravo

Thank you for putting the ridiculous and hypocritical protests by Muslims in proper perspective. I applaud you, and support your email completely.

Here is the Professor's email to the Moslem Association at Michigan State University via Dhimmi Watch:



Dear Moslem Association: As a professor of Mechanical Engineering here at MSU I intend to protest your protest.

I am offended not by cartoons, but by more mundane things like beheadings of civilians, cowardly attacks on public buildings, suicide murders, murders of Catholic priests (the latest in Turkey!), burnings of Christian chirches, the continued persecution of Coptic Christians in Egypt, the imposition of Sharia law on non-Muslims, the rapes of Scandinavain girls and women (called "whores" in your culture), the murder of film directors in Holland, and the rioting and looting in Paris France.

This is what offends me, a soft-spoken person and academic, and many, many, many of my colleagues. I counsul you dissatisfied, agressive, brutal, and uncivilized slave-trading Moslems to be very aware of this as you proceed with your infantile "protests."

If you do not like the values of the West -- see the 1st Ammendment -- you are free to leave. I hope for God's sake that most of you choose that option. Please return to your ancestral homelands and build them up yourselves instead of troubling Americans.

Cordially, I. S. Wichman, Professor of Mechanical Engineering



Not only do I agree whole heartedly with the content of his un PC stance, but I also find it amusing that Muslims and the babies on the Far Left find the content of his free speech appalling and want him severely reprimanded.

The Prof's first name is Indrek. If he was living in a Muslim state, he would be living up to his name, hopefully that won't be the case in America.


Additional comment: This letter really speaks of the hypocrisy of the Muslims. After 9/11 I often heard the excuse that the reason that there wasn't very many protests against terrorist acts was that the Muslims didn't have enough numbers in the West to generate proper prostests. Obviously, as we know now, that was a lie.

And again, I also bring up the fact that the cartoons were published in Egypt in October, and it didn't generate one protest. So is the image of Mohammed really that offensive, or are the Muslims who protest just a bunch of hypocritical whiners?